Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 09:32:04 06/21/04
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On June 21, 2004 at 05:51:40, Joachim Rang wrote: >On June 21, 2004 at 05:24:33, Uri Blass wrote: > >>I talk with a person and he tells me that Xeon2 is new technology and it is >>better than opteron but it simply does not fit the price that I agree to pay for >>it. >> >>He tells me that there are graphs that tell that Xeon2 is better. >>When I tell him that people in this forum told me that pentium4 is relatively >>bad he tells me that he does not trust them(note that he does not deal with >>chess programs). >> > >that's the point. Xeons are fine for certain applications and in generally I >would say not worse than Opterons (but not better neither and much more >expansive). > >For certain applications Xeons will outperform Opterons significantly and for >others (such as chess programs) Opterons will outperform Xeons significantly. >That is what all people in that board are telling you, so no need to ask other >people who know nothing about chess performance. > > >>He also claims that the Athlon64 is the same quality as the pentium4 that I can >>get. >>He agrees that the opteron is better than normal pentium4 that I can get. >> > >this is all wrong. You can't no more make such general statements, since the >performance for different purposes very widely. In general the P4 has also its >merits and performs in some multimedia applciation very well, but for chess... > >>I am interested to know if there is some graph that shows that the opteron and >>even the athlon64 is better than the xeon2. >> > >look at the benchmarks given in this board and here: > >http://www.beepworld.de/members39/computerschach2/chessmarks.htm > > >>Note that I probably decided to go for the opteron and not for the athlon >>because people tell me that I cannot get responsibility for the athlon64 and are >>against it. >> > >What does that mean? The guarantee is the same, why you can't get responsibility >for an AMD 64? > >An Opteron is SMP-capable an AMD64 not, but in a single configuration an AMD64 >will perform equal to an Opteron (for chess!). That is a mis-statement. AMD calls their new 64 bit architecture "AMD64". I think you meant "athlon-64" instead, as AMD64 is their trade name for _all_ of their 64 bit processors lumped together, whether it is athlon-64, or opteron... > >>Hopefully I can also get opteron248 in the next 2 weeks for the tournament with >>responsibility not directly from IBM with a cheaper price. >> >>Uri > > >I don't think so, but feel free to try. My advice would be, got to your local >computer store and let you assmble a system with the new AMD 64 3200 whith >smaller cache but clocked 2.2 GHz, get 2 GB of RAM a good mainboard, two 160 >GB-IDE-Disks in Raid-configuration and the rest won't matter for 1500 - 1800 $. > >regards Joachim
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