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Subject: Re: report about my hardware plans

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 02:21:14 06/23/04

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On June 22, 2004 at 09:53:02, Joachim Rang wrote:

>On June 22, 2004 at 09:44:57, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On June 22, 2004 at 09:20:06, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>
>>>On June 22, 2004 at 09:01:03, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>I think to buy the opteron248 or opteron250(if possible) from
>>>>www.compu21.co.il(I go for 2 in order to be able to add one processor in the
>>>>future)
>>>>
>>>>There are some problems:
>>>>
>>>>1)There is no confidence that I can get the hardware before the beginning of
>>>>WCCC.
>>>>
>>>>2)I am the only buyer of that hardware in Israel and amd has not it in the stock
>>>>so the company will invite the parts from USA and they expect to get it in 4
>>>>days from the day that I order.
>>>>
>>>>3)It is the first time that this computer is built by that company and I cannot
>>>>be sure how much time it is going to take them to build the computer.
>>>>
>>>>4)there is only limited responsibility for the computer(not like the case when I
>>>>buy something from IBM).
>>>>
>>>>The price of the computer is at least 3500$ but I do not pay it in one payement
>>>>so there is going to be no problem with it.
>>>>
>>>>I remember that people claimed that the athlon64 is cheaper solution but based
>>>>on looking at the price of the processor it seems that the price of the good
>>>>athlon is high so there is probably not a big difference and I do not see that I
>>>>can get a computer that is 10% slower for significantly smaller price.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Opteron 248 (clocked at 2.2 GHz)	  $ 690
>>>AMD Athlon 64 3400+ (clocked at 2.2 GHz)  $ 417
>>
>>
>>http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_609,00.html
>>
>>I see 799$ for the athlon(not athlon XP) in this table when the opteron is
>>cheaper.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>you mean this:  Athlon™ 64 FX-53  	$799
>
>this one is clocked at 2.4 GHz and you must compare it to the Opteron 250 which
>is listed with $851.
>
>Look at the same table one column to the right were all these 3000+ numbers are.
>There you find the AMD Athlon 3400+ for 417 $.
>
>What about this system?
>
>Athlon 64 3000+ (FSB 1600, 1MB) Box - 3 years warranty - 3 years warranty
>($277.76)
>
>GA-K8NPRO (nForce3,AMD64,SATA SB,Raid,Lan1G,FW)  ($148.20)
>
>DDR 512MB/400 PC3200 Elixir/Digma/OEM  ($92.00)
>
>DDR 512MB/400 PC3200 Elixir/Digma/OEM  ($92.00)
>
>WD SATA160GB, 7200 rpm 8MB - 3 year warranty  ($137.86)
>
>ATI Radeon 7000 64MB,TV Out, Dual Head (of Octek)  ($49.20)
>
>Midi ATX + 2USB 400W (329-1)  ($44.20)
>
>DVD Toshiba 16x48, Bulk in stock  ($35.96)
>
>
>Price USD: 877.18
>Price NIS: 4542.52
>
>I configured it online on http://www.compu21.co.il/.
>
>It has only tht AMD Athlon 3000+ which is clocked at 2.0 GHz, so it is probably
>10 % slower than your Opteron 248, but it is  below 900 $ and you can buy three
>of them.
>
>regards Joachim

I decided to go for both the athlon and the opteron.

I start by buying the opteron that will be done today and I have some questions
about the parts of the athlon.

1)WD SATA160GB, 7200 rpm 8MB - 3 year warranty  ($137.86)

Is it a good idea to spend money on memory when I can save money by getting 40GB
and use the money for a better processor(3200 ghz).

2)If the athlon3000+ is only 10% slower than the opteron248 then what about
the athlon3200 or the athlon3400 (they expect to get athlon3400 next week)?

Uri



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