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Subject: Re: report about my hardware plans

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 02:52:52 06/23/04

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On June 23, 2004 at 05:30:16, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 23, 2004 at 05:21:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On June 22, 2004 at 09:53:02, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>
>>>On June 22, 2004 at 09:44:57, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 22, 2004 at 09:20:06, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 22, 2004 at 09:01:03, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think to buy the opteron248 or opteron250(if possible) from
>>>>>>www.compu21.co.il(I go for 2 in order to be able to add one processor in the
>>>>>>future)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There are some problems:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1)There is no confidence that I can get the hardware before the beginning of
>>>>>>WCCC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2)I am the only buyer of that hardware in Israel and amd has not it in the stock
>>>>>>so the company will invite the parts from USA and they expect to get it in 4
>>>>>>days from the day that I order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>3)It is the first time that this computer is built by that company and I cannot
>>>>>>be sure how much time it is going to take them to build the computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>4)there is only limited responsibility for the computer(not like the case when I
>>>>>>buy something from IBM).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The price of the computer is at least 3500$ but I do not pay it in one payement
>>>>>>so there is going to be no problem with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I remember that people claimed that the athlon64 is cheaper solution but based
>>>>>>on looking at the price of the processor it seems that the price of the good
>>>>>>athlon is high so there is probably not a big difference and I do not see that I
>>>>>>can get a computer that is 10% slower for significantly smaller price.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Opteron 248 (clocked at 2.2 GHz)	  $ 690
>>>>>AMD Athlon 64 3400+ (clocked at 2.2 GHz)  $ 417
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_609,00.html
>>>>
>>>>I see 799$ for the athlon(not athlon XP) in this table when the opteron is
>>>>cheaper.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>
>>>you mean this:  Athlon™ 64 FX-53  	$799
>>>
>>>this one is clocked at 2.4 GHz and you must compare it to the Opteron 250 which
>>>is listed with $851.
>>>
>>>Look at the same table one column to the right were all these 3000+ numbers are.
>>>There you find the AMD Athlon 3400+ for 417 $.
>>>
>>>What about this system?
>>>
>>>Athlon 64 3000+ (FSB 1600, 1MB) Box - 3 years warranty - 3 years warranty
>>>($277.76)
>>>
>>>GA-K8NPRO (nForce3,AMD64,SATA SB,Raid,Lan1G,FW)  ($148.20)
>>>
>>>DDR 512MB/400 PC3200 Elixir/Digma/OEM  ($92.00)
>>>
>>>DDR 512MB/400 PC3200 Elixir/Digma/OEM  ($92.00)
>>>
>>>WD SATA160GB, 7200 rpm 8MB - 3 year warranty  ($137.86)
>>>
>>>ATI Radeon 7000 64MB,TV Out, Dual Head (of Octek)  ($49.20)
>>>
>>>Midi ATX + 2USB 400W (329-1)  ($44.20)
>>>
>>>DVD Toshiba 16x48, Bulk in stock  ($35.96)
>>>
>>>
>>>Price USD: 877.18
>>>Price NIS: 4542.52
>>>
>>>I configured it online on http://www.compu21.co.il/.
>>>
>>>It has only tht AMD Athlon 3000+ which is clocked at 2.0 GHz, so it is probably
>>>10 % slower than your Opteron 248, but it is  below 900 $ and you can buy three
>>>of them.
>>>
>>>regards Joachim
>>
>>I decided to go for both the athlon and the opteron.
>>
>>I start by buying the opteron that will be done today and I have some questions
>>about the parts of the athlon.
>
><snipped>
>>1)WD SATA160GB, 7200 rpm 8MB - 3 year warranty  ($137.86)
>>
>>Is it a good idea to spend money on memory when I can save money by getting 40GB
>>and use the money for a better processor(3200 ghz).
>
>I see that I need SATA that is the same for the motherboard and the memory so it
>seems that Joachim was right here and the difference between 120GB and 160GB
>is less than 10$ in price.
>
>Uri

Price is 1284.65$

Here are the relevant parts with comments:
Before I buy it I prefer to hear comments from people about it(if there are
parts that are important to change from the point of view of speed of chess
program.

1)Athlon64 3200+(FSB 1600 1MB)Box 3 years warranty-3 years(358.03$)
2)GA-8IK1100 i875P,DD400,6 ch.SB Intel Lan,FW,S-ATA(148.5$)
3)2* DDR 512MB/400 PC3200 Elixir/Digma/OEM(92$+92$)
The question is if I need 2 of them but this was suggested in the original post.
4)Mextor 120 GB 7200/133 8 MB cache SATA 129.39$(instead of 160 GB that is
slightly more expensive)
5)ATI Radeon 7000 64MB,TV Out,Dual Head(of Octek) 49.20$
6)Midi ATX+2USB 400W(329-1) (44.2$)
7)Floppy Disk Drive 1.44MB(10.56$)
8)DVD Toshiba 16*48 Bulk in stock(35.96$)
9)NetCard PCI 10/1000 Realtek(8.6$)
10)Mag17"786PF 0.25 Flat-(140$)
11)Genius KB-10X PS2 En/Heb(10.5$)
12)Windows XP Pro(En)+Gift-Microsoft Optical mouse(165.71$)

Uri



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