Author: Uri Blass
Date: 03:08:42 06/23/04
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On June 23, 2004 at 05:41:59, Joachim Rang wrote: >On June 23, 2004 at 05:21:14, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On June 22, 2004 at 09:53:02, Joachim Rang wrote: >> >>>On June 22, 2004 at 09:44:57, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On June 22, 2004 at 09:20:06, Joachim Rang wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 22, 2004 at 09:01:03, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I think to buy the opteron248 or opteron250(if possible) from >>>>>>www.compu21.co.il(I go for 2 in order to be able to add one processor in the >>>>>>future) >>>>>> >>>>>>There are some problems: >>>>>> >>>>>>1)There is no confidence that I can get the hardware before the beginning of >>>>>>WCCC. >>>>>> >>>>>>2)I am the only buyer of that hardware in Israel and amd has not it in the stock >>>>>>so the company will invite the parts from USA and they expect to get it in 4 >>>>>>days from the day that I order. >>>>>> >>>>>>3)It is the first time that this computer is built by that company and I cannot >>>>>>be sure how much time it is going to take them to build the computer. >>>>>> >>>>>>4)there is only limited responsibility for the computer(not like the case when I >>>>>>buy something from IBM). >>>>>> >>>>>>The price of the computer is at least 3500$ but I do not pay it in one payement >>>>>>so there is going to be no problem with it. >>>>>> >>>>>>I remember that people claimed that the athlon64 is cheaper solution but based >>>>>>on looking at the price of the processor it seems that the price of the good >>>>>>athlon is high so there is probably not a big difference and I do not see that I >>>>>>can get a computer that is 10% slower for significantly smaller price. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Opteron 248 (clocked at 2.2 GHz) $ 690 >>>>>AMD Athlon 64 3400+ (clocked at 2.2 GHz) $ 417 >>>> >>>> >>>>http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_609,00.html >>>> >>>>I see 799$ for the athlon(not athlon XP) in this table when the opteron is >>>>cheaper. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>> >>>you mean this: Athlon™ 64 FX-53 $799 >>> >>>this one is clocked at 2.4 GHz and you must compare it to the Opteron 250 which >>>is listed with $851. >>> >>>Look at the same table one column to the right were all these 3000+ numbers are. >>>There you find the AMD Athlon 3400+ for 417 $. >>> >>>What about this system? >>> >>>Athlon 64 3000+ (FSB 1600, 1MB) Box - 3 years warranty - 3 years warranty >>>($277.76) >>> >>>GA-K8NPRO (nForce3,AMD64,SATA SB,Raid,Lan1G,FW) ($148.20) >>> >>>DDR 512MB/400 PC3200 Elixir/Digma/OEM ($92.00) >>> >>>DDR 512MB/400 PC3200 Elixir/Digma/OEM ($92.00) >>> >>>WD SATA160GB, 7200 rpm 8MB - 3 year warranty ($137.86) >>> >>>ATI Radeon 7000 64MB,TV Out, Dual Head (of Octek) ($49.20) >>> >>>Midi ATX + 2USB 400W (329-1) ($44.20) >>> >>>DVD Toshiba 16x48, Bulk in stock ($35.96) >>> >>> >>>Price USD: 877.18 >>>Price NIS: 4542.52 >>> >>>I configured it online on http://www.compu21.co.il/. >>> >>>It has only tht AMD Athlon 3000+ which is clocked at 2.0 GHz, so it is probably >>>10 % slower than your Opteron 248, but it is below 900 $ and you can buy three >>>of them. >>> >>>regards Joachim >> >>I decided to go for both the athlon and the opteron. >> >>I start by buying the opteron that will be done today and I have some questions >>about the parts of the athlon. >> >>1)WD SATA160GB, 7200 rpm 8MB - 3 year warranty ($137.86) >> >>Is it a good idea to spend money on memory when I can save money by getting 40GB >>and use the money for a better processor(3200 ghz). >> >>2)If the athlon3000+ is only 10% slower than the opteron248 then what about >>the athlon3200 or the athlon3400 (they expect to get athlon3400 next week)? >> >>Uri > > >Athlon 3400+ will be as fast as Opteron 248. There is also a version of 3200+ >which runs @ 2.2 GHz that will be as fast as Opteron 248 too, but there is an >old 3200+ which runs like the Athlon 3000+ at 2.0 GHz, that will be 10 % sloer >too. > >regards Joachim Thanks but I do not understand how it is possible that 3400 can be the same speed as a new version of 3200. What is the advantage of 3400 in that case? Uri Uri
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