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Subject: Re: the "pearls before swine" effect ... in SCIENCE, yes!

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 04:17:08 06/23/04

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On June 22, 2004 at 17:56:32, Steve Glanzfeld wrote:

>This board just isn't capable to give positive replies. People can work for the
>community as hard as they want: Still, CCC folks are going to bitch around and
>make scathing remarks.
>
>This place is so rotten!
>
>(To be deleted soon, no doubt. Keywords "freedom of speech" :)))
>
>Steve


No, this masterpiece of ignorance should certainly not be deleted because you
are correct. You are depressed because of the terribly negative effects of
clarifications for commercial interests (however small!) of a computerchess
journal, here the German CSS - in their support and distribution of such a
WM-Test.

You are absolutely right, in science we have two different worlds (that belong
together and, this must be added by all means - - that _work_ together
perfectly),

a) the (positive) world of theory building and offering hypotheses and then

b) the (negative) world of theory testing with the corroboration or refutation
of hypotheses!

Nobody half-way sane enough would _ever_ accuse the second part in science of,
let's say, hyper sadism, insanity or only negatively biased. No, the exact
examination of the most beautiful theories and ideas is being done with utmost
and clinical cleanness and determination. There is absolutely no room for
whining or emotional influence.

Here in our case of a chess "test" we have three terms and reality tests if you
want.

1) does this test has anything to do with real chess, with games playing chess

2) is this test reliable in its results

3) and finally can we make significant conclusions about the behavior of here
chess engines; are the differences we get significant in a testtheoretical sense


Without clear answers to all three questions such a "test" could well give a lot
of fun to all the "testers" but such a "test" unfortunately had no meaning. That
verdict isn't sadistic or ill or blinded by hate feelings or personal wishes of
any kind, no, this is the truth about such an experimental design. So, yes, in
science it is a normal reality that people must feel like having thrown their
most precious "pearls before swine", but everybody knows that this is the only
acceptable reality choice we (mankind) have.

This forum here (CCC) has no other choice, it allows the presentation of ideas
and theories and practice reports, but the evaluating of such data is based on
science and not commercial interests and wishful thinking.



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