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Subject: Re: has any program reached master level on chinese chess ?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 16:03:53 06/23/04

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On June 23, 2004 at 13:48:03, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On June 22, 2004 at 07:46:02, TEERAPONG TOVIRAT wrote:
>
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I've never seen any downloadable Chinese chess program that can match
>>a strong human player. IMHO, it's much more difficult to create a master
>>level program than in chess. In chess, when you lose the first pawn,it's
>>likely that you'll lose the game eventually. But, in Chinese chess, you may
>>find yourself in trouble after you have 1-2 pawns up in the opening.
>>And you have to handle many specific endgame positions differently.
>
>>Regards,
>>Teerapong
>
>There is no commercial motivation for writing chinese chess programs that's the
>sole reason why the more popular of the 2 games is dominant in computer games.
>
>I know the rules of both games and can assure you that it is for an outsider
>much harder to write a chessprogram beating the strongest chessprograms, than it
>is to write a chinese chess program beating the strongest chinese chess
>programs.
>
>Note that both require a big effort, but chinese chess is at a much lower level
>thanks to commercial driven developments in chess.

I think that developement in chess programming is driven by free programs with
source code and not by commercial programs.

I expect significant improvement in the future thanks to Fabian(programmer of
Fruit).

I believe that Fruit is going to be the best chess program with free source code
in the future(at least for one processor).

Today it is still crafty but fruit progress very fast and it still does not have
king safety code.

Uri



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