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Subject: Re: Second Thoughts respect CM 10º edition

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 13:20:46 06/25/04

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On June 25, 2004 at 15:54:13, Fernando Villegas wrote:

Hi,

>After some extra testing and looking at CM 10.000, much or perhaps all the first
>somewhat childish enthusiasm I had for it has evaporated.

I do not know this program well enough, since I do not buy or get programs
without the auto232. If someone gives them to me I just put them away. I am not
planning to buy it because some of features I like most in chess programs are
not included in this package.

It is not my habit to talk badly about any chess program and I will not start
today.

I think this is a very good programs in many ways, because the programmer is
really skilled, but since some time his interest is not to make stronger
programs, but new versions.

I can understand that his way of play is fun and that because of this several
people like this program and are fan of it, but I think it is a mistake they
make expectations about something which is not planned and getting upset because
of this.

To me the Auto 232 feature and a professional opening book is a clear indication
if that program cares about strenght and to supply something at the top level.

This program is made for the mass people; the pieces movers. I mean who does not
know how to play chess and like graphics and things like that.
From a commercial point of view this may be the best...

I am sure some people will react badly about what I said, but this is my
impression and if you think a little deeper you will agree with me.

Just my 2 cents

Sandro

>Not that this product is deficient at all, but once you have begun to use it for
>real after the first enthralling feeling that invade a freak with just the idea
>you have in your hands something new, you rapidly comes to terms with a very
>simple reality: it is the fact this CM is "new" only with respect to the most
>shallow features. In every real aspect with CM 10º edition you have 99% of the
>very same product capable of beating you 100% of times, the same toy with lot of
>frills not  better than the older and sometimes even worse, the same fastidious
>Waitzkin with his same and so peculiar way not to talk english but to spurt an
>uninteligible new yorkian jargon, the same or a very similar engine, -perhaps
>stronger but that is moot to all of us-, etc.
>Then, for what?
>As John Merlino knows well because I corresponded with him about this two times
>or so  during his previous incarnation as Ubisoft employee, what I would
>consider "new" is a far cry of all CM 10 offer. I do no care about stronger
>engines as much, at least in this issue, I am reasonable enough not to ask for
>more, being already absolutely surpasssed by current state of the art. What I
>have been asking -Ed Schroeder also received from me, years ago, a petition of
>the sort- is something altogether different and superuior -I believe- in terms
>of utility for players of avrage force like me, that is to say, for people
>playing between 1800 and 2100 Elo.  There is nothing for this class of players
>in stock. Yes, Fritz offers some interesting features, even CM does so, but not
>to the degree neccesary.
>Or it could be I ama sking for an impossible thing.
>Anyway, CM 10 edition does not stand anymore in my purchasing list. Cm9000 is
>more tha enough, as it was cm80000, 7000, 6000, 5500 and 5000.
>
>Better to purchase more books...
>
>Fernando



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