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Subject: Re: a bug in Fritz/Junior?

Author: Ralph E. Carter

Date: 02:07:06 12/23/98

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On December 23, 1998 at 04:57:49, blass uri wrote:

>
>On December 23, 1998 at 04:44:19, Ralph E. Carter wrote:
>
>>On December 23, 1998 at 04:32:47, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On December 23, 1998 at 04:20:25, Ralph E. Carter wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 23, 1998 at 04:13:56, blass uri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On December 23, 1998 at 03:17:29, Ralph E. Carter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Do you know that engines under Fritz and Junior have their hashtables cleared
>>>>>>before every move? And that this has a disproportionate effect on those engines
>>>>>>that intelligently save information between moves, like hiarcs and crafty?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If nobody cares about questions such as these, I am leaving.
>>>>>
>>>>>I do not know but if it is the case then it is a bug in Fritz/Junior.
>>>>>
>>>>>It has nothing to do with CM6000 so I do not understand the subject
>>>>>bad bug in CM6000...
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>What do you mean "it is a bug in Fritz/Junior"?
>>>>Just because the results of automated tournaments in Fritz will not be reliable,
>>>>is this a bug?
>>>
>>>Yes, if you are right that the hash tables are cleared before every move  then
>>>it is a bug and I understand if some people will not buy Fritz/Junior because of
>>>this bug.
>>>
>>>I do not think that chessbase earns from this bug because buyers of programs
>>>like hiarcs may prefer to buy the program not from chessbase.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I am a hiarcs fan.
>>I bought the hiarcs6.eng for Junior 5.
>>THEN I found out that it is seriously weakened under this interface.
>>This happened in the real world.
>>
>>In reply, the programmer of Junior said that such issues are, I quote
>>"invented", and are not related to anything that happens, quote, "in the real
>>world".
>
>I think that the programmer of Junior is not responsible for it.
>He is responsiblr only for the engine Junior5 and not for something that is a
>problem of all Fritz engines.
>>
>>Chessbase is not harmed by this because NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT.
>
>Now some people know.
>If there is a bug then chessbase can understand that people will discover it in
>the future so they have something to lose in the future dfrom bugs.
>
>Uri

I know Mr. Ban is not responsible. It was his arrogant attitude I objected to.

Many of our discussions here are about small differences between programs. We
are interested in this.

It is FOR THE SAKE OF the smaller programmers that I became angry.

Now, it is too late to advise people to get the full version of hiarcs 6 instead
of the engine. Now hiarcs 7 is out, and supposedly will not be released as an
engine.
Ultimately, CB will not be harmed, just as bugs in Microsoft Word did not keep
it from crushing WordPerfect.

That hiarcs 6 lost one sale in my case, did happen in the real world.



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