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Subject: Re: Komputer Korner APOLOGIZES to Chris Dorr and to Mindscape

Author: Christopher R. Dorr

Date: 05:53:18 12/23/98

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Hi KK,

No apology necessary....you made some interesting points, and it was an
interesting discussion altogether. You made me think about how I use my
programs, and this is one of the purposes of CCC. And you certainly made me
think about what features I consider important in a chess program.

Thanks, too, for the review...I always look forward to one of your excellent
reviews!



Happy Holidays!

Chris Dorr



On December 23, 1998 at 04:47:09, Komputer Korner wrote:

>It seems that I was wrong in calling CM6000 a toy program. The reason is that it
>is possible to become a chess master (up to 2300 rating) without going over
>one's played games in player player mode (with or without a computer)and without
>using an opening book editor. The fact that CM6000 doesn't have these features
>should in no way preclude those who aspire to be a chess master from buying it.
>In fact see my revised article below after the 2nd patch. It wins Gold Medal
>awards all around.  However the consensus from FIDE masters and IMs seems to be
>that even though you can reach master level chess by not studying your own
>games, if you want to reach higher than that you must start to study your own
>played games. So Mr. Dorr I truly apologize to you and the other masters I
>slighted and it seems all the chess schools that advocate studying one's games
>were really talking to masters that want to reach the IM and GM levels. We have
>all learned something here and again I hope you accept my apology.
>--
>Komputer Korner
>the now humble inkompetent komputer
>
>
>
>ChessMaster 6000 Patched version No. 2
>
>	The 7th version of the world’s top selling chess software for Windows 95/98 is
>now out and finally it has an editable database. In fact there already is a
>patch on the ChessMaster web site. The way that you can tell that your store
>bought version is the patched version or not is the date on the CM6000.exe file.
>The date of the patch version is Sept. 28, 1998. There is a  new look to the
>interface with the dark brown being replaced by a greyish blue background and
>this is much more pleasing to the eye. There are new tutorials and annotated
>instructive games and the coach window has a statistics function showing the
>opening score %’s.  You now can play rated games against the program and it
>keeps track of each user’s rating in a separate rating information database. You
>can play rated games against each of the ready made personality opponents or
>even create your own and play rated games against these opponents. There is a
>new 440,000 game database which allows you to import games that are in PGN
>files. You open up a tbg file which is ChessMaster’s dB format ( the same one as
>TascBase) and then you click on the import games feature and select the PGN file
>with the games you want to import. You can also choose to convert these pgn
>games into cmg (chessmaster) format if there is more than 1 game in the pgn
>file. The database screen is divided into 3 areas. The top area shows you a
>small board that you can move the pieces on with the move list to the right of
>it. Click anywhere on the move list and the new board position will show. Below
>that is the list of dB game headers. You simply double click on a game and the
>top part of the screen will reflect the game. You can choose to return to the
>main screen with the game you clicked on with the board position. At the bottom
>of  the database screen is the ECO-like screen showing the opening book moves
>which you can navigate through via on screen control buttons. You can click on
>the keys stats menu which will tell you a) number of subkeys b) number of sub
>games c) average ELO for each colour in the subkey d) results (wins,
>losses,draws) e) ECO code f) opening name.  If you save a game in either CM6000
>cmg  or pgn format the program will automatically delete illegal characters in
>your named file. You can create a new tbg format dB or use the 440,000 game dB
>that comes with the program. If you want to add or delete games from the 440,000
>game base you will have to copy it from the CDROM to your hard drive. You then
>take off the read only property by right mouse clicking the file in Explorer and
>clicking on properties. After deleting games, you can then optimize your dB
>which will then physically delete the marked for deletion games and at the same
>time all the header and opening key indices are adjusted. You can now search
>these databases on a 5 by 3 field header matrix search with “or” parameters.
>You can adjust the sizes of the game headers in the games list and you can
>choose to add or delete which game headers you want.  Fischer time controls of
>up to 999 second increments are possible.
>	There is a new 3D board and the boards now present turn lights to tell the user
>whose turn it is to move.
>	IM Josh Waitzkin has added some more of his deeply annotated games and I can’t
>say enough about how good these are. They are simply the best tutoring available
>outside of a real life personal tutor.  Another great improvement is that the
>chess tutor has been completely revamped. The tutor now has 14 sections each
>explaining a different part of the game. Almost all of the tutorials now have
>complete PV moving piece board analysis with complete audio, ghosted pieces and
>arrows explaining the key piece trajectories. Ghosted pieces are key pieces that
>are temporarily faded so as to point out key concepts in the tutorial
>explanation. The tutorials are presented in a beginner to novice logical order
>and the final section on John Nunn’s brain teasers will tax the minds of even
>masters. There is a workaround to the missing Tasc Smartboard submenu. Change
>the CM.ini file for the Smartboard value from 0 to 1.
> Direct access to Chessmaster Live is incorporated and the web site is now up
>and running. This is based on the Mplayer software that allows you to talk
>directly to your opponent through your computer’s microphone.
>A newly updated chess engine the King 2.61 is incorporated and it is indeed one
>of the strongest engines versus human opponents especially on longer time
>controls. The previous version CM5500 is presently winning the KK Kup 2. The
>Walter Pilz settings as modified by Harald Fabar are  now no longer the
>strongest and the suggested best settings is still a matter of controversy but
>one suggested setting by a user on rgcc is the following:
>Opening Book: Mentor.OBK
>Style:
>Attacker/Defender -15
>Strength of Play 100
>Randomness of play 0
>Book Depth 100
>Selective Search 10
>Contempt for Draw 0.0
>Transposition Table and Deep thinking should never be off
>
>Positional:
>Material/Position 20
>Control of Center 90
>Mobility 115
>King Safety 160
>Passed Pawns 105
>Pawns Weakness 125
>
>Material:
>(each value is for both)
>Queen: 10.0
>Rook:5.5
>Bishop: 3.5
>Knight: 3.3
>Pawn: 1.1
>
>As with all software here is a list of the faults.
>The opening book editor is unchanged and is basically a joke . Among it’s many
>faults is you don’t get a board position while editing. It is a separate program
>that comes for free with CM6000 and is not even  mentioned in the manual.
>Chessmaster could have easily done an excellent editor by linking it with the
>opening keys screen and making that editable but they did not. One can only hope
>that CM7000 will do this. There is no way to get the thinking window (PV’s and
>score evaluation) to work if you are in player player mode.  The program is a
>bit unstable in that the tutorials sometimes quit halfway through and exiting by
>the x box in the top right hand corner will sometimes cause a crash, but this is
>also because of my unstable WIN 95 setup. However it should be noted that I have
>other Win 95 chess programs that never crash. There is no way to simply drag the
>board window to make a larger size. You have to set it in the Environment menu.
>When you change the board size to maximum size in the above menu, the piece
>sizes do not adjust to reflect the new size.
>The seconds per move limit is still a measly 999 seconds.
>There is a semi intelligent mouse in that if only one piece can move to a square
>then the piece will move if you click on the “to” square, but if 2 pieces can
>move there, this feature will not work. Some other chess programs have a truly
>intelligent mouse whereby the program makes the decision on which piece will
>move if you click only on the ‘to’ square.
>The setup position has no consecutive entry of same piece with left mouse. There
>is no right mouse clicking for opposite piece colour in setup position.
>The quick entry feature doesn’t seem to work fully. This is the feature that
>allows the user to click on the “from” square or “to” square for moving the
>piece.  Clicking on the “to” square works but not the “from” square, contrary to
>the manual. There are no take back or move forward buttons. The user has to
>either press CTRL-T or go to one of the top menus. There is no info voice in the
>database screen nor in the brain teasers tutorial. There is no word index in the
>paper manual.   There seems to be a useless column in the database headers that
>contain a small 4x4 chessboard icon for each game.
>    	You can’t save a game directly to a tbg database within CM6000. You have to
>save your games to pgn files and then import those games into the database.
>Since CM6000’s interpretation of PGN will save variations, but will not let you
>play through them on the board, saving them is useless for using them within
>CM6000. You can’t convert a cmg file to a pgn file even though you can convert
>the other way. However since only cmg files can contain alternate lines and
>evaluations, it is not possible to store annotated games in your CM databases.
>PGN rules allow alternate lines but since cmg files cannot be imported into your
>CM6000 databases, you cannot get your annotated games into them. When you import
>the PGN games into a CM6000 (tbg) database, the alternate lines show up only on
>the small database board but you can’t play through those variations. If you
>import a pgn game into the dB, you cannot play through the variations except for
>the main line.  Importing a huge number of pgn games into a database is too
>slow. 	Exported PGN games can’t be read by external programs until they have
>been renamed so that all the punctuation is gone except for the .pgn extension.
> 	 The game move lists do not recognize transpositions nor do they recognize
>that a duplicate move has been made as an alternative at any move. I must admit
>that no chess program that allows alternatives in the move list  has solved this
>but Fritz 5/Junior 5 supplies a tree view that catches all transpositions.
>However CM6000 doesn’t have an editable tree.  There is no Replace game feature
>and thus once a game is in a dB you have no way of changing the game header info
>unless you save the game under a new heading and import this new pgn saved game
>and then delete the old game.
> The pgn dialog box showing the game headers for games that you are importing
>isn’t large enough. It should expand to fit the full screen.   There is no
>option in the Auto Annotate feature to do only analysis for 1 side.
> Interestingly, some of the opening commentary of certain openings has been
>deleted from CM5500. Ex: some of the Moderrn Defence commentary has been cut
>out.  The replay of the Auto annotate alternate PVs is too fast.
> The login registered user’s name should always be presented in a drop down pick
>list for the name of either colour’s opponent. Sometimes it is necessary  to
>type one’s own login’s name inthe game details.
> If you save a game to an existing pgn file, CM6000 will overwite the whole
>file.  You can’t save game details like round number and player ELO.
> EPD files are not supported even though text files and FEN are.
> The coach part of the manual hasn’t been updated to reflect the stats feature
>mentioned above. There is no drag and drop capability of adding databases to one
>another and no pick list of previously opened databases.
> None of the tutorials allow you to skip some of the materiel. You have to go
>through each tutorial in the sequence supplied. However you can go right to each
>example in each tutorial by clicking on the + sign in the main tutorial list.
> The practice openings should be much more in depth with the lines. Too many of
>them are 1 movers. You are forced to keep pressing continue each time a page is
>finished in the tutorials. This is a pain because most of the tutorials are laid
>out such that only 1 line appears on a page and sometimes only one move on a
>page!
>  If the sliding pieces on screen are on slow mode, they are often too slow for
>the audio analysis in the replay of Auto Annotation.  If you have taken back
>moves and have changed the side to move and then woke up CM6000 and if there is
>no time on the clock, CM6000 will blunder it’s moves sometimes.  The tutorials
>should not have buttons to mouse click the  move alternatives. The user should
>always be able to make the move choice by moving the piece on the board. This
>isn’t always the case in CM 6000. The dragging and dropping of pieces is a bit
>too cumbersome. Changing notation only changes it in the move list window. The
>think lines always stays in coordinate notation. There is no search by material
>nor theme nor negatives nor combination of header and position. Searches can
>only be done on last names. There is no symbol pick list for annotating a game
>yourself.
> 	Some alternatives are not played out on the board in the tutorials.
>  You can’t delete variations in the move list.  Does not run in WIN NT 4.
>CM6000 won’t resign.
> The non standard windows interface doesn’t allow the font size of the menus to
>be changed. The maximum move number is 513 ply.
> The tutorial written commentary should be in figurine notation and should be in
>a larger font.  The program will crash on page 27 and page 56 of the brain
>teasers tutorial if the user tries to move the pieces on the board. In fact in
>the page 56 brain teaser, the program will allow a wrong 1st move 1.f5.
> Too many times the hint commentary is just a repeat of the actual move
>commentary that shows on the next page. Force move often doesn’t work.  The
>patch version doesn’t show the patch number in the About menu. The
>Attacker/Defender setting is misnamed. The actual function of this setting is to
>set the willingness to exchange pieces with positive numbers meaning that the
>program will avoid exchanges. There is no endgame tablebase support
> The King engine doesn’t know the procedure to checkmate with bishop and knight.
>When down to king vs king, the program gives no indication that the game  is
>drawn.  Some personalities will not allow truly random moves even if user has
>specfied that feature in creating them.
>
>The list of exact mistakes is now down to 4 in the tutorials.
>
>In the  Strategy tutorial
>Pg 67- There is a mistake in the suggested alternative commentary on page 68.
>1.Rh1 only delays the win. After 1.Rh1Kg7 white would have to play 2.Rc1(d1)
>anyway in order to get to b8.
>
>195- The rest of the pieces should be on the squares because white has
>alternatives otherwise.
>
>In the Seirawan tutorial
>Pages 208-240 The black pawn on f7 should be on f6.
>
>In the Brain Teasers tutorial
>Pg 26- The commentary should read “If white plays 1.Bc4 Black replies with
>1....b3
>
>However this program despite the above flaws is simply the best value for money
>to non tournament chess players. Even for non masters who don’t need an opening
>book editor and don’t go over their moves in their tournament games , CM6000
>fulfills their needs. Chessmaster has now matured as a computer chess software
>and CM6000 with it’s low discount price is tremendous value for money. For this
>reason, CM6000 is awarded a Komputer Korner Gold Medal for its value in features
>to non tournament players and for it’s engine strength .
>For OTB masters or correspondence players the lack of thinking in player-player
>mode and it’s poor opening book editor are serious handicaps. For those users
>who simply want to play a tremendously strong program for a very cheap price,
>CM6000 is the best deal on the market. CM6000 now is awarded  3 more Gold Medals
>for the teaching categories.



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