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Subject: Re: Thanks Andreas. Corrected version ...

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 21:34:04 06/29/04

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For this position, it looks like exd6 and Rfd8 probably also win (both up a
rook):

Position 1 - Black to play
--------------------------
ID = "30.5.IQ.1135"
FEN = 2r2rk1/4p2p/bq1P2p1/p4p2/3R1P1B/2N5/P2Qp1PP/6K1 b - -

. . r . . r k .
. . . . p . . p
b q . P . . p .
p . . . . p . .
. . . R . P . B
. . N . . . . .
P . . Q p . P P
. . . . . . K .

Current Position = 3.94
Number of Possible Moves = 45

  6    539      50      87745   exd6 Be1 Bc4 Kh1 Rfd8 Rxc4 Rxc4 Nxe2
  7    542     172     326071   exd6 Be1 Rfe8 Nd5 Qd8 Bf2 Rc5
  8    534     640    1351930   exd6 Be1 Rfe8 Nd5 Qd8 Qb2 Rc4 Rd3
  9    526    4003    8979880   exd6 Be1 Rfe8 Nd5 Qd8 Ra4 Rc5 Bf2 Re6
  9    548   13833   32538349   Rfd8 Nxe2 Bxe2 Bxe7 Rd7 h3 Rc4 Bf6 Rxd4
  9    548   18000   41733109   Rfd8 Nxe2 Bxe2 Bxe7 Rd7 h3 Rc4 Bf6 Rxd4

Search Time : 180.0 Seconds
Total Nodes Searched   : 41733109  (79.4% Qui)
Total Nodes Evaluated  : 33107380
Cuts       : Delta        0  : SEE     7047477  : Mate          0
           : Razor   512557  : Eval    1283510
Extensions : Check  1211004  : OneRep   159882  : CMThreat  18113
           : Pawn    299578  : Recap    149796  : RevCheck 165343
Hash Stores (Size) : 7901859  (11184799)
Hash Probes (Hits) : 29200542  (6582983)
EGTB Probes (Hits) : 0  (0)
Move Ordering      : 83.2%
Best Move = Rfd8
Move Score = 548
--Answer: Rxc3    !! Incorrect !!
Correct So Far : 0/1

This position appears to have several winning moves:

Position 3 - White to play
--------------------------
ID = "52.6.IQ.949"
FEN = 5r1k/1b1P3p/4Q1pb/8/P7/4N1PP/1P2r3/R2R2K1 w - -

. . . . . r . k
. b . P . . . p
. . . . Q . p b
. . . . . . . .
P . . . . . . .
. . . . N . P P
. P . . r . . .
R . . R . . K .

Current Position = 14.14
Number of Possible Moves = 47

  5    800      52     116750   Qe5+ Kg8 Rd5 Bxe3+ Kh1 Rd2 Qe6+ Kh8
  6    800      85     196657   Qe5+ Kg8 Rd5 Bxe3+ Kh1 Rd2 Qe6+ Kh8 Qe5+ Kg8
&rep.
  7    801     185     458979   Qe5+ Kg8 Rd5 Bxe3+ Kh1 Rd8 Rf1 Bxd5+ Qxd5+ Kg7
b4
  8    852     547    1654421   Qe5+ Kg8 Rd5 Bxe3+ Kh1 Bb6 Qxe2 Bxd5+ Kh2 Kh8
  8    855!   1093    3622666   Rd5 Bxe3+ Kh1 Bxd5+ Qxd5 Bb6 Qd6 Bc5 Qxc5 Rb8
  8    871    1138    3764680   Rd5 Bxe3+ Kh1 Bb6 Qxe2 Bxd5+ Kh2 Kg8 b4 Ra8
  9    817?   1894    6585617   Rd5 Bxe3+ Kh1 Ref2 Qe5+ Kg8 Re1 Bb6 Qe6+ R2f7
Qe5
  9    779    4649   17528818   Rd5 Bxe3+ Kh1 Ref2 Qe5+ Kg8 Qd6 Bg5 Rad1 Kf7
  9    817    5063   18920075   Qf6+ Rxf6 d8=q+ Rf8 Qd4+ Bg7 Qa7 Rxb2 Nf5 gxf5
Qd4
 10    844    7132   26386111   Qf6+ Rxf6 d8=q+ Rf8 Qd4+ Bg7 Qc5 Bh6 Qc3+ Bg7
Qc7 Bxb2 Re1 Ba6 Rxe2 Bxa1
 11    844   18003   66151550   Qf6+ Rxf6 d8=q+ Rf8 Qd4+ Bg7 Qc5 Bc8 Rf1 Rd8 Qe7
Re1

Search Time : 180.0 Seconds
Total Nodes Searched   : 66151550  (76.1% Qui)
Total Nodes Evaluated  : 50208363
Cuts       : Delta        0  : SEE     4086540  : Mate          0
           : Razor   528648  : Eval    6827529
Extensions : Check  3543416  : OneRep   506319  : CMThreat  34114
           : Pawn    310529  : Recap     80206  : RevCheck 364416
Hash Stores (Size) : 12368293  (11184799)
Hash Probes (Hits) : 46664593  (7737537)
EGTB Probes (Hits) : 1  (1)
Move Ordering      : 88.9%
Best Move = Qf6+
Move Score = 844
--Answer: Qf6+    ** Correct **
Time To Solution = 50.63 sec
Correct So Far : 2/3

Bxb7 may be nearly as good as the suggested move:

Position 5 - White to play
--------------------------
ID = "57.6.IQ.966"
FEN = 1k1r2r1/pp3p1p/B2q1n2/8/3Pb1p1/2Q5/PR3PPP/2B1R1K1 w - -

. k . r . . r .
p p . . . p . p
B . . q . n . .
. . . . . . . .
. . . P b . p .
. . Q . . . . .
P R . . . P P P
. . B . R . K .

Current Position = 0.81
Number of Possible Moves = 51

  5     64      84     109302   Qa5 Rge8 Be3 Qf8
  5     69     101     128385   Qc4 Rc8 Qb5 Rc7 Bg5
  6     30     131     167560   Qc4 Rc8 Qa4 Ka8 Bb5 Rgd8
  6     46     185     241499   Qa5 Rd7 Be3 Rgd8 Rc1 Qf8
  6     49     315     431709   Bc4 Qc7 Bd2 Rge8 Ba6 Qxc3 Bxc3
  7     34     521     785801   Bc4 Qxd4 Qxd4 Rxd4 Bxf7 Rgd8 Rbe2
  7     56     654     996149   Qa5 Rd7 Bb5 Rc7 Be3 Nd5 Rc1 Nxe3 Rxc7 Qxc7 Qxc7+
Kxc7 fxe3
  8     40    1534    2609109   Qa5 Rd7 Bb5 Rc7 Be3 Rgc8 d5 b6
  8     54    2570    4642438   Bc4 Qc7 Bd2 h5 Bb3 Qxc3 Bxc3 Bd5
  8    110!   2643    4807179   Bxb7 Qc7 Qxc7+ Kxc7 Rxe4 h6
  8    279    3143    6867732   Bxb7 Bxb7 Bf4 Qxf4 Rxb7+ Ka8 Qc5 Qxh2+ Kxh2 Kxb7
  9    333!   3793    8260195   Bxb7 Bxb7 Bf4 Qe5 dxe5 Rd2
  9    602    5015   11421355   Bxb7 Bxb7 Bf4 Ka8 Bxd6 Rxd6 Re7 Rd7 Qb4
  9    793    7970   18491096   Bf4 Qxf4 Bxb7 Qc7 Bxe4+ Kc8 Bb7+ Kd7 Re7+ Kxe7
Qxc7+ Nd7 Bd5
 10    828   11178   25913876   Bf4 Qxf4 Bxb7 Qc7 Bxe4+ Kc8 Bb7+ Kd7 Re7+ Kxe7
Qxc7+ Nd7 Be4 Kf6 Bxh7
 10    828   18002   43288088   Bf4 Qxf4 Bxb7 Qc7 Bxe4+ Kc8 Bb7+ Kd7 Re7+ Kxe7
Qxc7+ Nd7 Be4 Kf6 Bxh7

Search Time : 180.0 Seconds
Total Nodes Searched   : 43288088  (76.8% Qui)
Total Nodes Evaluated  : 33227415
Cuts       : Delta        0  : SEE     6516178  : Mate          0
           : Razor  1240992  : Eval    2299100
Extensions : Check  2143103  : OneRep   205295  : CMThreat  33622
           : Pawn      8743  : Recap     67541  : RevCheck 142318
Hash Stores (Size) : 8207488  (11184799)
Hash Probes (Hits) : 30029004  (5921511)
EGTB Probes (Hits) : 0  (0)
Move Ordering      : 90.2%
Best Move = Bf4
Move Score = 828
--Answer: Bf4    ** Correct **
Time To Solution = 79.70 sec
Correct So Far : 4/5


Rb3 is probably worth investigating here:

Position 8 - Black to play
--------------------------
ID = "85.6.IQ.1146"
FEN = 1r2r1k1/p1p2p1p/6p1/8/8/4NBPb/qBQ2K1P/1R6 b - -

. r . . r . k .
p . p . . p . p
. . . . . . p .
. . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . .
. . . . N B P b
q B Q . . K . P
. R . . . . . .

Current Position = 1.86
Number of Possible Moves = 45

  5    214      45      47236   Rb3 Nc4 Bf5 Ra1 Rxb2 Qxb2 Qxc4 Rxa7
  5    313      57      61050   Rxe3 Kxe3 Rb3+ Kf4 g5+ Kxg5 Rxf3 Qxc7 Qxb1 Qxa7
  6    279      93     121373   Rxe3 Kxe3 Bf5 Be4 Re8 Qxc7 Rxe4+ Kd2
  6    356     114     160615   Rb3 Bd5 Rexe3 Ra1 Rf3+ Bxf3 Qxb2 Qxb2 Rxb2+
  7    356     273     454390   Rb3 Bd5 Rexe3 Ra1 Rf3+ Bxf3 Qxb2 Qxb2 Rxb2+
  8    347     701    1488104   Rb3 Bd5 Rexe3 Ra1 Rf3+ Bxf3 Qxb2 Qxb2 Rxb2+ Ke3
Rxh2 Rxa7
  8    356    1114    2610452   Rxe3 Kxe3 Bf5 Be4 Re8 Be5 Qxc2 Bxc2 Bxc2
  9    356    4776   11782439   Rxe3 Kxe3 Bf5 Be4 Re8 Be5 Qxc2 Bxc2 Bxc2
 10    324   17621   46330565   Rxe3 Kxe3 Bf5 Be4 Qb3+ Kd2 Rd8+ Ke2 Qxc2+ Bxc2
Bxc2 Rc1 Re8+ Kd2
 10    324   18004   47515539   Rxe3 Kxe3 Bf5 Be4 Qb3+ Kd2 Rd8+ Ke2 Qxc2+ Bxc2
Bxc2 Rc1 Re8+ Kd2

Search Time : 180.0 Seconds
Total Nodes Searched   : 47515539  (77.3% Qui)
Total Nodes Evaluated  : 36722426
Cuts       : Delta        0  : SEE     8131364  : Mate          0
           : Razor   608530  : Eval    1506909
Extensions : Check  2711005  : OneRep   193667  : CMThreat  22879
           : Pawn       163  : Recap    142254  : RevCheck  28465
Hash Stores (Size) : 9913994  (11184799)
Hash Probes (Hits) : 35557662  (5658973)
EGTB Probes (Hits) : 0  (0)
Move Ordering      : 84.8%
Best Move = Rxe3
Move Score = 324
--Answer: Rxe3    ** Correct **
Time To Solution = 11.14 sec
Correct So Far : 7/8


Some other moves may have chances here:

Position 16 - White to play
---------------------------
ID = "105.7.IQ.1008"
FEN = r2q1rk1/1p1bbppp/p1n1p3/2p1P2Q/4N3/6P1/PPPB1PBP/3RR1K1 w - -

r . . q . r k .
. p . b b p p p
p . n . p . . .
. . p . P . . Q
. . . . N . . .
. . . . . . P .
P P P B . P B P
. . . R R . K .

Current Position = 0.47
Number of Possible Moves = 47

  5    109      51      45134   Be3 g6 Qh6 Nxe5 Bxc5 Bxc5 Nxc5
  6    122     126     141857   Be3 g6 Qe2 Nxe5 Nxc5 Qc7 Bxb7
  7    122     299     398143   Be3 g6 Qe2 Nxe5 Nxc5 Qc7 Bxb7
  7    156     863    1252450   Bc3 Kh8 Nd6 g6 Qf3 Qc7 Nxf7+ Kg8
  8    129    1194    1799130   Bc3 Re8 Nd6 g6 Qh6 Bg5 Qh3 Re7 Nxb7
  8    134    2082    3569825   Bg5 g6 Bxe7 Qxe7 Nf6+ Qxf6 exf6 gxh5 Rxd7
  9    135    3048    5254254   Bg5 g6 Bxe7 Qxe7 Nf6+ Qxf6 exf6 gxh5 Rxd7 Rab8
  9    155    3501    6000790   Bc3 Re8 Nd6 Rf8 Nxb7 Qc7 Nd6 f6 Be4 Nxe5
  9    188!   3929    6749631   Nf6+ gxf6 exf6 Bxf6 Be4 Bc3 bxc3 f5 Bxc6 a5
  9    188    4288    7427839   Nf6+ gxf6 exf6 Bxf6 Be4 Re8 Qg4+ Bg7 Bh6 Qf6 Rf1
 10    242!   7117   12471967   Nf6+ gxf6 exf6 Bxf6 Be4 Re8 Qxh7+ Kf8 Bg6 Bg7
Bh6 Ke7 Bxg7 Rg8 Bh5
 10    242    7841   13871396   Nf6+ gxf6 exf6 Bxf6 Be4 Re8 Qxh7+ Kf8 Bg6 Bg7
Bh6 Ke7 Bxg7 Rg8 Bh5
 11    296!  16595   28642825   Nf6+ gxf6 exf6 Bxf6 Be4 Re8 Qxh7+ Kf8 Bg6 Bg7
Bh6 Ke7 Bxg7 Qb6 Bh5 Ne5

Search Time : 180.0 Seconds
Total Nodes Searched   : 31190927  (81.8% Qui)
Total Nodes Evaluated  : 25522623
Cuts       : Delta        0  : SEE     8784875  : Mate          0
           : Razor  1066263  : Eval     444785
Extensions : Check   699797  : OneRep   118569  : CMThreat  12367
           : Pawn     83462  : Recap     58261  : RevCheck  39524
Hash Stores (Size) : 4862680  (11184799)
Hash Probes (Hits) : 21846632  (4337174)
EGTB Probes (Hits) : 0  (0)
Move Ordering      : 87.2%
Best Move = Nf6+
Move Score = 296
--Answer: Nf6+    ** Correct **
Time To Solution = 39.29 sec
Correct So Far : 14/16


This position gives Kf3 up a full piece.  What score does the alternative get?

Position 12 - White to play
---------------------------
ID = "98.7.IQ.985"
FEN = 8/2bP1Q1p/6pk/p3p3/P1Bp4/1P1R2KP/5PP1/2q4r w - -

. . . . . . . .
. . b P . Q . p
. . . . . . p k
p . . . p . . .
P . B p . . . .
. P . R . . K P
. . . . . P P .
. . q . . . . r

Current Position = 2.48
Number of Possible Moves = 34

  6    295      74     127821   Kf3 Qg5 Qf8+ Kh5 g4+ Kh4 Kg2 e4 Rxd4 Rxh3
  7    295     304     607460   Kf3 Qg5 Qf8+ Kh5 g4+ Kh4 Kg2 e4 Rxd4 Rxh3
  8    302    1293    2908047   Kf3 Qg5 Qf8+ Kh5 g4+ Kh4 Kg2 e4 Rxd4 Rh2+ Kf1
Bd8
  9    314    5796   14032734   Kf3 Qg5 Qf8+ Kh5 g4+ Kh4 Kg2 e4 Rxd4 Rxh3 Kf1
Qd8 Qxd8+ Bxd8 Rxe4
 10    314   18000   44273489   Kf3 Qg5 Qf8+ Kh5 g4+ Kh4 Kg2 e4 Kxh1 exd3 f4 Qd8
Qh6+ Kg3 Qxh7

Search Time : 180.0 Seconds
Total Nodes Searched   : 44273489  (76.3% Qui)
Total Nodes Evaluated  : 33711447
Cuts       : Delta        0  : SEE     8649621  : Mate          0
           : Razor   345529  : Eval    3002982
Extensions : Check  3603449  : OneRep   435874  : CMThreat  30462
           : Pawn    655414  : Recap     74773  : RevCheck 113984
Hash Stores (Size) : 9971497  (11184799)
Hash Probes (Hits) : 33413869  (4469790)
EGTB Probes (Hits) : 0  (0)
Move Ordering      : 88.8%
Best Move = Kf3
Move Score = 314
--Answer: Re3    !! Incorrect !!
Correct So Far : 10/12



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