Author: Harald Faber
Date: 06:57:37 12/23/98
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On December 23, 1998 at 09:33:36, Nouveau wrote: >>The Nunn test has different openings. Could you specify your idea where the >>difference is? > >First, the Nunn test is without opening books, second the Nunn test has "only" >10 positions. I know but the idea is the same? >Let's take an example to clarify : > >Theme : King's gambit (I'm an afficionado ;o) >Players : Hiarcs7, Fritz5.32, Rebel10, Junior5, MChessPro7, Nimzo99, CM6000, >Genius6 > >They play a multiple round-robin (white and black for each starting position) > >Positions : > - Fischer defense (1.e4 e5 2.f4 ef 3.Nf3 d6) > - Kiezeretsky (1.e4 e5 2.f4 ef 3.Nf3 g5) > - Modern defense (1.e4 e5 2.f4 ef 3.Nf3 d5) > - Bishop defense (1.e4 e5 2.f4 Bc5) > - Counter-gambit (1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5) > >And with time, why not sub variations ? > >For this example, we have, for each program 35 games with white and 35 with >black that is a good set to discover strengths and weaknesses for this opening. >Maybe (I insist : _maybe_) would we discover a true King's gambit killer or a >King's gambit specialist !!! It would be interesting for human player (for >trainig or studying). > >What do you think ? Where is the difference? It is just abother set of opening positions or do you want the programs to have opening book still enabled? >>I am sure but that is what opening book responsibles for commercial chess progs >>do. They try to find out which openings are bad and which are good for the >>program. > >Does that mean that progs only play openings they "understand" ? They would >never play the French or the King Indian then ;o)). It should be; some do, some don't. To have a wider variety some add dubious moves (for that program) to give the user more fun. MCP e.g. has 2 different books, one for strongest setting and one with a wider opening repertoire. >Besides most of the lines >end with += or = positions that are to be played...well played ! What is good for Kasparow needn't to be good for Genius. >>Such a difference will always be found in each opening. But I think French and >>Kings Indian are 2 openings that won't be played well at least for the next 5 >>years. > >So we do agree ! It would be interesting to investigate for important openings, >for fun or study or trainig... >Jeff I do/did that too in e-mail computer games, but it is so time-excessive... Time is all you need but I don't have... =:-| That's it, merry X-mas for you all
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