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Subject: Re: About Off Topic Post and Moderators philosophy

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 10:18:11 12/23/98

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On December 23, 1998 at 09:44:59, Fernando Villegas wrote:

>Hi candidates:
>I have read carefully your statements and  I feel very comfortable with the view
>of Larry T. and someone else, but I am afraid that althought all of you are
>mainly in a correct posture, with more or less inclination to be tough, I see
>with some worry a somewhat narrow criteria about off-posting activities. Let me
>say this very simple fact: off-post as any "off" comunication in any group is so
>esential to the life of the group as the the main stuff. Specially here: THIS IS
>NOT an specialized magazine in chess programming, where all the stuff should be
>about it; this is a newsgroup formed and runned by people. Of course all of us
>are interested in chess computers, BUT I dare to believe that the esential
>purpose of all of us to be here, even if we do not realize it, is to communicate
>with other fellows with the pretext of chess computers more than chess computer
>as such. At least so it is for those of us that are not chess programmers and so
>are not looking here just for some information. So, for the rest of us, no
>programmers guys, any communication going beyond the field that define the group
>cannot be considered as a kind of fault that can be "tolerated" or punished
>according the views of the moderator, but as something positive, something that
>give extra richness to and an extra reason to be here. Why I shouldn't be
>capable of talking about jazz with KK if the topic appears, and do it so post
>after post without "warnings" that we are off topic? Maybe somebody could say:
>"go to a jazz newsgroup", but then if I do so I will not meet there KK and
>besides it is precisely the mixture of other things with THIS thing that makes
>interesting such probable communication. Could you grasp that? Off topic civily
>conducted not only should be tolerated, but even stimulated. Anyway chess
>computer will stay being the main concern, no problems with that, but at the
>same time we will know more about each others and get more from our
>communication. Only insults and attacks should be catalogued as off topic.
>fernando

Fernando,

I just joined yesterday, so maybe I'm missing the point. But the agreement I
made when I joined the group included:

1. Are, within reason, on the topic of computer chess

Did you not also agree to this when you joined?

Granted, some related topics (such as candidate moderators viewpoints) and how
should people not act on this newsgroup have to (by default) be included.
However, what you are effectively proposing is to remove #1 from the agreement
list.

My personal belief is that when possible, people should stick to the main topic
of computer chess (I realize I'm off that topic here) where possible and to take
other topics off line via Email or other newsgroups. Moderators should probably
only send warnings to flagrant violators of #1.

I do not think most of us have the time to read through dozens of postings on
unrelated topics.

KarinsDad ;-)



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