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Subject: Re: ChrisW Nomination correct or not

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:23:43 12/23/98

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On December 22, 1998 at 23:15:55, Dan Kiski wrote:

>On December 22, 1998 at 23:11:25, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On December 22, 1998 at 20:22:05, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>
>>>On December 22, 1998 at 09:49:33, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 22, 1998 at 09:23:15, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>b) Knew of Sean's bogus accounts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why should CW be responsible for SE bogus accounts???
>>>>
>>>>>If you would prefer a less "I am my brother's keeper" approach, consider that in
>>>>>the jurisdictions I am aware of, it is a criminal act to have knowledge of a
>>>>>criminal act and not to inform the authorities.  (I am not saying that Chris
>>>>>committed a criminal act.  It's just an analogy.)
>>>>
>>>>That is a bad analogy. We are not talking of crime.
>>>>
>>>>>I do think that if Chris was genuinely concerned about the legitimacy of the
>>>>>upcoming CCC moderator elections, he would have notified either ICD or one of
>>>>>the moderators so that action could have been taken.  If he took this step, and
>>>>>I just am not aware about it (because I am not "well-connected" or because that
>>>>>is supposed to be a secret or whatever :), then I would say "thanks, Chris" to
>>>>
>>>>Why should he? He was banned from CCC so you can't expect some kind of "thanks"
>>>>from him.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Well, he should, because it is the ethical thing to do.  Or, maybe his ethics
>>>are different than mine. <shrug>
>>>
>>>>>And, for the record, it's my opinion that if (and only if) both Chris and Sean
>>>>>were members in good standing at the time of Sean's nomination of Chris, then
>>>>>the nomination should have been allowed to stand.  I don't know if Chris is a
>>>>>member in good standing or not, that is actually a complete question mark to me.
>>>>
>>>>AFAIK Chris was and still is a banned member, as far as I understand it one
>>>>would say "no member" because user name exists but no entry allowed.
>>>
>>>Well, probably someone else could shed more light on this than I could.  I think
>>>at one point he resigned from the CCC Board, then someone took that opportunity
>>>to change his password (at his request?), then he asked for it back but it was
>>>not granted, then he apparently showed up as Steve Blatchford for a while... I
>>>am sure there are parts to the saga that I have missed, and possibly some of
>>>what I've said was inaccurate as well.  I mean, that's why I just said "I don't
>>>know if Chris is a member in good standing or not" in the first place.  Maybe
>>>it's clear to some people, but it's about as clear as mud to me.
>>>
>>>Dave Gomboc
>>
>>Bruce Moreland has mentioned in another post that Chris is on the banned list,
>>and he ought to know, so that's that.
>>
>>Bruce also didn't accept the procedural argument, which is okay, but still not
>>my choice.  In any event, if Chris is truly interested in becoming a moderator,
>>he can appeal to whoever the new moderators are for clemency to "unban" him.
>>Whether they agree or not is obviously something else.
>>
>>Bad pun for the day: Who is going to "ban" people when Amir is gone? :)
>>
>>Dave Gomboc
>
>You will....I hope !!

And may he be crafty in his thought processes when he does.

:)



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