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Subject: Re: I hope all the best for Crafty in Israel Wch, but...

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 10:16:06 07/02/04

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On July 02, 2004 at 11:48:24, Volker Böhm wrote:

>On July 02, 2004 at 03:07:46, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On July 02, 2004 at 02:14:07, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>...simply chances are not big, when in comp-comp play Crafty is at least 150
>>>points weaker than best engines. It needs 8 times faster PC to equal.
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>
>>4 times faster than the computers used by Shredder, Junior and Fritz should be
>>enough to equal the Elo strength, otherwise, it is NOT just 150 points Weaker
>>than the best engines :-)
>>
>>Jorge
>
>Hi,
>
>As far as I know you need more than 4 times the computer speed to get 150 ELO.
>
>One ply deeper takes about 2-3 times more time. The amount of elo gained from an
>additional ply search depth is about 50 (for shallow search) to 30 (for very
>deep search).

additional ply with heavy forward pruning does not give the same as additional
ply with heavy extension.

It is better to talk about speed and not about plies.

I also do not know what you mean when you talk about shallow search but I guess
that the ssdf games are played even at shallower than what you consider as
shallow search based on your definition because programs in the ssdf earns more
than 50 elo from being 2-3 times faster based on the rating for K6-450 and A1200
even after considering that the A1200 is about 3-4 times faster for most
programs.

Uri



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