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Subject: Re: I hope all the best for Crafty in Israel Wch, but...

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 12:00:25 07/02/04

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On July 02, 2004 at 11:48:24, Volker Böhm wrote:

>On July 02, 2004 at 03:07:46, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On July 02, 2004 at 02:14:07, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>...simply chances are not big, when in comp-comp play Crafty is at least 150
>>>points weaker than best engines. It needs 8 times faster PC to equal.
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>
>>4 times faster than the computers used by Shredder, Junior and Fritz should be
>>enough to equal the Elo strength, otherwise, it is NOT just 150 points Weaker
>>than the best engines :-)
>>
>>Jorge
>
>Hi,
>
>As far as I know you need more than 4 times the computer speed to get 150 ELO.
>
>One ply deeper takes about 2-3 times more time. The amount of elo gained from an
>additional ply search depth is about 50 (for shallow search) to 30 (for very
>deep search). All these engines are allready searching deep thus 150 elo needs
>about 3-4 plys of search depth. Thus the hardware must be about (2,5)^3,5 = ca.
>25 times faster to get these 150 elo´s by hardware.
>
>Luck is the biggest factor to win at WCCC as they do not play many games.
>
>Greetings Volker


Based on your definition Ruffian 2.0.0 on an AMD XP 2400+ is NOT as strong as
Shredder 8 on an AMD K-6 2+ 600 Mhz. :-)


  Rating + - Games Won Av.opp
1 Shredder 8.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2818 34 -32 481 70% 2673
2 Shredder 7.04 UCI 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2809 24 -23 967 71% 2648
3 Deep Fritz 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2790 26 -25 855 72% 2625
4 Junior 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2782 27 -26 750 67% 2654
5 Shredder 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2772 27 -25 801 70% 2624
6 Deep Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2769 24 -24 898 66% 2655
7 Fritz 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2759 22 -22 1043 65% 2649
8 Deep Junior 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2749 35 -33 439 64% 2644
9 Hiarcs 9.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2747 26 -26 744 61% 2667
10 Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2744 29 -28 634 63% 2653
11 Shredder 6.0 Pad UCI 256MB Athlon 1200  2725 22 -22 1033 62% 2642
12 Shredder 6.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2723 31 -30 547 62% 2634
13 Chessmaster 9000 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2720 36 -36 376 55% 2682
14 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200  2719 30 -30 557 61% 2640
14 Chess Tiger 15.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2719 23 -22 983 58% 2659
16 Deep Fritz 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2718 30 -29 571 61% 2642
17 Gambit Tiger 2.0 256MB Athlon 1200  2715 29 -29 583 58% 2656
18 Junior 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2702 24 -23 881 54% 2674
19 Shredder 7.0 UCI 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2699 34 -34 429 54% 2669
20 Rebel 12.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2691 34 -33 442 56% 2647
21 Hiarcs 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2684 22 -22 996 53% 2663
22 Ruffian 1.0.1 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2679 29 -29 565 53% 2658
23 Rebel Century 4.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2677 29 -29 590 60% 2606
24 Deep Sjeng 1.5a 256MB Athlon 1200 MH  2676 31 -31 493 52% 2664
25 Chess Tiger 15.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2666 34 -33 433 52% 2651
26 Shredder 5.32 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2663 26 -26 739 50% 2661
27 Gandalf 4.32h 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2660 31 -31 514 53% 2637
28 Deep Fritz 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2655 31 -31 498 53% 2637
29 Gandalf 5.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2648 44 -45 250 43% 2697
30 Gandalf 5.1 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2639 25 -25 758 55% 2606
31 Ruffian 2.0.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2620 54 -55 165 48% 2635





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