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Subject: Re: Best Athlon XP chip to over clock??

Author: Derek Paquette

Date: 14:00:31 07/02/04

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On July 02, 2004 at 14:34:28, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>On July 02, 2004 at 02:12:56, Derek Paquette wrote:
>
>>On July 02, 2004 at 01:55:29, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>>
>>>On July 01, 2004 at 23:53:56, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi everyone, right now I own an athlon 1700xp, with 256 PC100 ram,
>>>>
>>>>I'm looking to purchase an XP chip, they are relatively cheap, $262 canadian for
>>>>a athlon 3200xp,
>>>>
>>>>but what is the best chip to overclock to very high GHZ?
>>>>I see on the playchess server that some are running athlon 2800 chips at
>>>>2.54ghz,
>>>>
>>>>could i get a 3200 higher?
>>>>could someone recommend something?
>>>>(i realize i need a new mobo ram and cooling, but i'm looking for strictly the
>>>>chip and mobo i would need, for maximum speed, i want to be making about 400
>>>>kn/sec with Hiarcs9 at starting position)
>>>>my athlon 1700 does 150
>>>
>>>Best thing to get right now is the mobile Athlon XP 2600+. This one in
>>>particular: http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=3804
>>>
>>>Don't worry about the 'mobile' part. Same chip, just a lower voltage. It just
>>>has a better core, instead of ramping up the MHz they just kept the same MHz and
>>>dropped the voltage. Anyway, this is the best cpu (better than the 3200+'s) to
>>>overclock. Just make sure you get a good motherboard. The Abit NF7-S v2.0 is the
>>>best to get right now.
>>>
>>>You'll also want a good heatsink/fan and memory. Check www.anandtech.com for the
>>>latest memory roundup and pick the best ram out of there, something that can do
>>>at least 200fsb at CAS-2.0. As for cooling, check out www.bestbyte.net. Grab the
>>>SLK-900a. The best fan to get is the 92mm Tornado but uh.. it is **LOUD**. Hear
>>>it on the other side of your house kinda loud. You'll be able to push the chip
>>>like mad, though. :)
>>>
>>>Also, keep your vcore (cpu voltage) at or below 2.00v, do not push it any
>>>higher. All in all you should end up in the 2.6-2.7GHz range with that chip, no
>>>lower than 2.6GHz.
>>
>>Wow this is excellent information, thank you very much
>>Any idea what kn/sec i'll be pushing with hiarcs9 if i can get it to 2.6?
>
>400Kn/s is an extremely high goal.. not sure if it's doable without vapor phase
>cooling. Here are some of my estimates (should be pretty accurate for an XP)
>
>291kn/s for a 2.6GHz Athlon XP in the start position w/ hiarcs 9 and 64mb hash
>302kn/s for a 2.7GHz Athlon XP same settings
>
>Assuming you get a 25% increase in kn/s from Hiarcs with an Athlon 64 over an
>Athlon XP, we can guess the following:
>
>Athlon 64 2.0GHz - 280kn/s
>Athlon 64 2.2GHz - 308kn/s
>Athlon 64 2.4GHz - 336kn/s
>Athlon 64 2.6GHz - 364kn/s
>
>The Athlon 64 3000+ is just over $200, and supposedly overclocks to 2.4GHz or
>so. This may be a good bet to getting good performance. It would also give you
>the added 64bit support when stuff starts moving that direction which you
>wouldn't have with the Athlon XP.
>
>The Athlon 64 would definitely be much more expensive but it sure is quick...
>
>Personally I'd try to go for the Athlon 64 3200+ (2GHz). It has a higher
>multiplier and you wouldn't have to stress the bus so much trying to get the CPU
>as high.
what about the new Athlon64  3800+
??
that is available in canada for sometime now, is that over clockable?



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