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Subject: Re: question about handling time in WCCC

Author: Stan Arts

Date: 07:37:54 07/03/04

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Hi Uri

But in the game posted there would of been no problem, as that was played
at tournament timecontrol. 40 moves in X minutes. And lower in my message I
estimated that 8-10 minutes per 40 moves would be very safe, all the way
upto 300 moves. :)   (300/40 = 7x extra x 8-10 minutes = 56-70 minutes)
But I don't know the type of timecontrol at the tournament, and just tried to
give an idea. In any case 300 moves is much worse then a worst case.. (I
also don't know the exact rules, but if in a game it's clear neither side can
win (that's probably often the case >100-150 moves) you and your opponent are
human and may probably declare draw at some time? So you can probably take
that chance. Besides, if you start to get to a long endgame you start to move
more enthousiasticly yourself and speed up.. )

Stan



>
>I think to prepare for the worst case and 300 moves are not impossinble(see the
>following game).
>
>Extra time of 10 minutes is too risky for this game that could be more than 300
>moves in case that ufim had no bugs.
>
>
>[Event "WBEC6 3rd Division"]
>[Site "ATHLON-MP2200"]
>[Date "2003.10.14"]
>[Round "6.1"]
>[White "Ufim 4.02"]
>[Black "Kaissa 1.7"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[PlyCount "600"]
>[EventDate "2003.??.??"]
>[TimeControl "40/2400:0"]
>
>1. c4 c5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nc6 5. Nc3 e5 6. Ndb5 d6 7. Nd5 Nxd5 8.
>cxd5 a6 9. Nc3 Na7 10. e4 Be7 11. Bd3 O-O 12. Qh5 h6 13. Be3 Bg5 14. Bxg5 Qxg5
>15. Qxg5 hxg5 16. O-O Bd7 17. Rac1 Rac8 18. Ne2 f6 19. b3 Kf7 20. f3 a5 21. a4
>b6 22. Ba6 Rc5 23. h3 g6 24. Nc3 Bc8 25. Bd3 Bd7 26. Rc2 Rfc8 27. Bc4 R8c7 28.
>Ra2 Nc8 29. Rfa1 Kg8 30. Nd1 Ne7 31. Nb2 Ra7 32. Nd1 Kg7 33. Rc2 Kg8 34. Rac1
>Rac7 35. Kf2 Kf7 36. Ne3 Ke8 37. Bd3 Rxc2+ 38. Rxc2 Rxc2+ 39. Nxc2 Nc8 40. Ba6
>Kd8 41. Na3 Na7 42. Be2 Kc7 43. Ke3 Kd8 44. Kd2 Bc8 45. Nc4 Kc7 46. Na3 Kd8 47.
>Kd1 Bd7 48. Nc4 Kc7 49. Na3 Kd8 50. Kc2 Ke7 51. Kd2 Be8 52. Nc4 Nc8 53. Na3 Na7
>54. Nc4 Nc8 55. Ke1 Bd7 56. Kf2 Kd8 57. Ke3 Kc7 58. Kd2 Na7 59. Bd3 Bc8 60. Kc3
>Bd7 61. Kd2 Be8 62. Kc3 Bd7 63. Na3 Kd8 64. Kb2 Bc8 65. Kc3 Bd7 66. Kd2 Bc8 67.
>Nc4 Kc7 68. Ke3 Bd7 69. Na3 Bc8 70. Kd2 Kd8 71. Ke1 Kc7 72. Kf2 Bd7 73. Ba6 Kd8
>74. Ke3 Kc7 75. Ke2 Kd8 76. Nc4 Kc7 77. Ke3 Nc8 78. Kd3 Na7 79. Kd2 Nc8 80. Na3
>Na7 81. Ke2 Kd8 82. Kd1 f5 83. Be2 Kc7 84. Kd2 Kd8 85. Nc4 Nc8 86. Ke3 Ke7 87.
>Kf2 Kd8 88. Ke3 Kc7 89. Na3 Na7 90. Kf2 Kb7 91. Nc4 Nc8 92. Ke1 Kc7 93. Na3 Na7
>94. Kd1 Kd8 95. Kd2 Ke7 96. Nc4 Nc8 97. Ne3 Kd8 98. Nc4 Ke7 99. Bd1 Kd8 100.
>Ke3 Ke8 101. Kf2 Ke7 102. Ke1 Kd8 103. Be2 Ke7 104. Kf2 Kd8 105. Kf1 Kc7 106.
>Na3 Na7 107. Ke1 Kd8 108. Kd2 Ke7 109. Ke1 Kd8 110. Kd1 Ke7 111. Nc4 Nc8 112.
>Kd2 Kd8 113. Kc3 Ke7 114. Ne3 Na7 115. Kd2 Kd8 116. Bd3 f4 117. Nc4 Kc7 118.
>Na3 Bc8 119. Ke2 Kd8 120. Nc4 Kc7 121. Kd1 Bd7 122. Kd2 Bc8 123. Kc2 Bd7 124.
>Na3 Bc8 125. Kd2 Kd8 126. Ke2 Kd7 127. Ke1 Kc7 128. Kd2 Kd8 129. Kc1 Bb7 130.
>Nc4 Kc7 131. Kd1 Bc8 132. Ke2 Bb7 133. Ke1 Bc8 134. Na3 Bb7 135. Kd1 Bc8 136.
>Ke2 Kd7 137. Kd1 Kd8 138. Be2 Bd7 139. Ba6 Be8 140. Nc4 Kc7 141. Kd2 Bd7 142.
>Kd3 Be8 143. Na3 Bd7 144. Kc3 Kd8 145. Kd2 Be8 146. Kd3 Bd7 147. Kd2 Be8 148.
>Kd3 Bd7 149. Kc3 Be8 150. Kb2 Bd7 151. Kc2 Kc7 152. Kc3 Kd8 153. Kc2 Be8 154.
>Nc4 Kc7 155. Na3 Kd8 156. Kd2 Bd7 157. Kc1 Be8 158. Kc2 Bd7 159. Kb2 Be8 160.
>Nc4 Kc7 161. Na3 Kd8 162. Nc4 Kc7 163. Ka3 Bd7 164. b4 axb4+ 165. Kxb4 Be8 166.
>Na3 Bd7 167. Bf1 Be8 168. Kb3 Bd7 169. Be2 Be8 170. Bd3 Bd7 171. Kb4 Be8 172.
>Be2 Bd7 173. Bc4 Be8 174. Ba6 Bd7 175. Be2 Kb8 176. Nb1 Kc7 177. Nc3 Be8 178.
>Kb3 Kd8 179. Kb4 Kc7 180. Bd3 Bd7 181. Kb3 Kd8 182. Ba6 Kc7 183. Bc4 Kd8 184.
>Ba6 Kc7 185. Bd3 Kd8 186. Bc4 Be8 187. Kb4 Kc7 188. Nb1 Kd8 189. Nd2 Kc7 190.
>Ba6 Bd7 191. Bd3 Bc8 192. Be2 Bd7 193. Ba6 Be8 194. Bd3 Bd7 195. Nc4 Be8 196.
>Nb2 Kd8 197. Ba6 Bd7 198. Be2 Kc7 199. Bf1 Kd8 200. Bd3 Kc7 201. Be2 Kd8 202.
>Bf1 Kc8 203. Ba6+ Kd8 204. Nd1 Kc7 205. Nc3 Be8 206. Nb1 Bd7 207. Nc3 Be8 208.
>Bc4 Bd7 209. Kb3 Be8 210. Kb4 Bd7 211. a5 bxa5+ 212. Kxa5 Kb8 213. Ka6 Bc8+
>214. Kb6 Bd7 215. Bb3 Nc8+ 216. Ka6 Ne7 217. Ba4 Bxa4 218. Nxa4 Kc7 219. Nc3
>Nc8 220. Nb5+ Kb8 221. Ka5 Kb7 222. Ka4 Nb6+ 223. Kb3 Nc8 224. Ka3 Kb6 225. Kb4
>Ka6 226. Nc7+ Kb6 227. Ne6 Ne7 228. Nxg5 Nc8 229. Ne6 Ne7 230. Kc4 Ka5 231. h4
>Kb6 232. Kb4 Nc8 233. Kc4 Ne7 234. Kb4 Nc8 235. Ng5 Ne7 236. Kc4 Kc7 237. Kb5
>Kb7 238. Ne6 Ng8 239. Ka5 Ne7 240. Kb5 Ng8 241. Ka5 Ne7 242. Ng7 Nc8 243. Kb5
>Ne7 244. Ka5 Ka7 245. Kb4 Kb6 246. Ne8 Nc8 247. Nf6 Ne7 248. Ka4 Nc8 249. Nd7+
>Ka6 250. Kb4 Ka7 251. Ka5 Kb7 252. Kb5 Na7+ 253. Kb4 Nc8 254. Nf8 Ne7 255. Kb5
>Kc7 256. Ka5 Kb7 257. Kb5 Kc7 258. Ne6+ Kb7 259. Ng5 Kc7 260. Ka6 Kb8 261. Kb6
>Kc8 262. Ne6 Kb8 263. Nf8 Kc8 264. Ka7 Kc7 265. Ne6+ Kc8 266. Kb6 Kb8 267. Nd8
>Kc8 268. Nc6 Ng8 269. Na7+ Kd7 270. Kb7 Nf6 271. Nc8 Ne8 272. Nb6+ Ke7 273. Kc8
>Ng7 274. Nc4 Ne8 275. Na5 Ng7 276. Nc6+ Kf7 277. Kd7 Ne8 278. Nd8+ Kf8 279. Nb7
>Nf6+ 280. Kxd6 Kf7 281. Kxe5 Nd7+ 282. Kxf4 Nb6 283. Nd8+ Kf8 284. Kg5 Kg7 285.
>Ne6+ Kf7 286. Nf4 Nc4 287. Nxg6 Nd6 288. e5 Nb7 289. h5 Kg7 290. Ne7 Kf7 291.
>Nf5 Kf8 292. h6 Ke8 293. h7 Kd8 294. h8=Q+ Kc7 295. Qe8 Nd8 296. d6+ Kc8 297.
>Nd4 Kb7 298. Qd7+ Kb6 299. Qc7+ Ka6 300. Qxd8 Ka7 {Draw by too many moves}
>1/2-1/2
>
>Uri



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