Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:57:14 07/07/04
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On July 07, 2004 at 19:27:13, GuyHaworth wrote: > >There is clearly a lot of interest on this bulletin board in the ICGA WCCC 2004 >event in Israel. It is clearly repaying us with some interesting games, >incidents and a close contest. > >Like G-CP and others who would very much like to be there in person, I regret >that I have not been able to attend, and have offered my apologies to Omid and >colleagues who are doing a first class job with the organisation there. > >[ In my case, I would not have been able to attend anytime in the last 10 weeks >if the event had been anywhere but my home town, but that's life. ] > > > >I am happy to receive suggestions for the requirements of an ICGA infrastructure >to support ICGA events, and also happy to hear of good examples of such >infrastructure, technologies involved, and expertise willing to be involved. > >I say this not only with my ICGA V-P hat on, but as a Univ lecturer happy to >engage suitable CS students in suitable, interesting projects which are required >to solve 'real problems' for 'real customers' by the authenticating body (the >BCS) in the UK. Email is more convenient for me than CCC but I don't wish to >stifle discussion on CCC if that is preferred. > This is easy. 1. Set up a LAN at the tournament site, with a local machine running a FICS server. 2. Require _all_ entrants to be FICS compatible, so that moves are automatically sent between programs with no human intervention, pairing is done electronically and games started automatically, clocks managed by the FICS server, games recorded by the FICS server, tournament crosstable provided by the tournament manager software on the same server, etc... 3. No exceptions allowed. See note 2 above. > > >However, you will note that Chessbase are included in WCCC2004's sponsors, and >are indeed webcasting the event with Boris' commentaries. Chessbase offered to >support the ICGA with their technology at Maastricht in 2002 and that offer was >welcomed by the Association. We are very grateful for Chessbase's continued >interest in the ICGA WCCC and their commitment to webcasting. > Fine. It is a proprietary interface, with a proprietary protocol. Let 'em webcast all they want, but do the main event in a publicly available protocol to prevent one company from "taking over". At ICC, we have had thousands of people looking at games at one time, such as the Deep Blue vs Kasparov match. ICGA events can't even be seen publicly unless you only run windows and download a (what is now free but might not always be since it is commercial) interface for that proprietary protocol. > > >Finally, I thank Omid again for performing his many roles in parallel with >exercising FALCON very creditably in the event. He has the support of the ICGA >personnel there. > > >Guy Haworth >VP, ICGA Fix the black hole. Nothing is getting out in a timely manner except for participants logging in to CCC as they have time. That is almost criminal behavior for the "International COMPUTER games association" to not make the event available to a COMPUTER network... It just defies all logic. IBM did it for the DB match, in a way that _anybody_ could watch, unix or not. Why can't the ICGA do the same? Why hasn't it _done_ it already. It's not like this is a new and novel idea...
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