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Subject: Re: Shredder is the World Computer Speed Chess Champion

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:29:01 07/07/04

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On July 07, 2004 at 16:19:15, Omid David Tabibi wrote:

>On July 07, 2004 at 16:00:56, Joachim Rang wrote:
>
>>On July 07, 2004 at 15:53:50, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>
>>>1. Shredder 5.5 (congratulations to Stefan!)
>>>2. Crafty 4.5
>>>3. Falcon and Junior 4.0
>>>
>>>The 1st and 2nd places are quad Opterons!
>>>
>>>I will upload the complete standings tomorrow.
>>>
>>>========
>>>
>>>I am quite happy with Falcon's performance, especially since I used a random
>>>book instead of the main book. Falcon's results were:
>>>
>>>0.5 vs ParSOS
>>>0.5 vs Diep
>>>1.0 vs Jonny
>>>1.0 vs The Crazy Bishop (Falcon playing French against the French program!)
>>>1.0 vs Junior
>>>0.0 vs Crafty
>>>0.0 vs Shredder
>>>
>>>In both the game against Crafty and the game against Shredder, Falcon had a nice
>>>advantage, but was outsearched (those damn quad Opterons...). Well, in the main
>>>tournament Falcon is doing fine so far (2nd place together with Shredder).
>>>Tomorrow the games in the first two tables will be:
>>>
>>>Shredder - Junior
>>>Deep Sjeng - Falcon
>>>
>>>The complete pairing will be uploaded tomorrow morning (the blitz tournament
>>>ended at about 22:00, so I had no time to update the website...)
>>>
>>>Tomorrow the games will start at 9:00.
>>
>>
>>thanks Omid for your work and updates. It's not your fault I think that there is
>>a delay since you have enough work with participation, Updates and lectures
>
>I'm doing my best to update the website as soon as I can. It is very easy to
>start complaining that "If the people responsible for the P/R stuff worked for
>me, they would be jobless". If that person who doesn't know what the hell he is
>talking about, and has already complained more than his share, can do a better
>job, he is welcome to organize a WCCC (I warn him though, he should set aside
>about one year of his life for organizing the event...).

Omid, you need to _GROW UP_.

No, you have not done a reasonable job in keeping things updated.  But also,
_NO_ it should not have been your job to do so.  You are a participant.  If you
will simply read my post, I _clearly_ pointed the index finger at the ICGA.
That is where the blame lies.  These events have been poorly done for several
years now, treated like a black hole where information flows in, but _none_
flows out.

If you want to take responsibility for a poor organizational model.  Fine.  You
did poorly.  If you look more carefully at my comment, a participant should not
be involved.  This is a _professional_ event.  Or at least it is supposed to be
such.  But from the outside looking in, it is amateur all the way...

And no, I am not blaming you for that.

But it is still a true description of the state of the WCCC.


>
>>and I don't think you get paid for your updates on the website
>
>No. In fact just today I paid 65 Euros for participation of Falcon and journal
>subscription :)
>
>
>>but I must admit the
>>ICGA should have appointed someone who is not involved in the tournamend to
>>maintain the website on a regular basis.
>>
>>regards Joachim
>>
>>P.S.: Am I right, that only 8 engines participated in the blitz tournament?
>
>Yes. The participants were:
>
>Shredder, Crafty, Falcon, Junior, Diep, ParSOS, Jonny, The Crazy Bishop.



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