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Subject: Re: ICGA and the webcasting of WCCC_2004

Author: Daniel Clausen

Date: 05:19:45 07/08/04

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On July 07, 2004 at 19:27:13, GuyHaworth wrote:

>
>There is clearly a lot of interest on this bulletin board in the ICGA WCCC 2004
>event in Israel.  It is clearly repaying us with some interesting games,
>incidents and a close contest.
>
>Like G-CP and others who would very much like to be there in person, I regret
>that I have not been able to attend, and have offered my apologies to Omid and
>colleagues who are doing a first class job with the organisation there.
>
>[ In my case, I would not have been able to attend anytime in the last 10 weeks
>if the event had been anywhere but my home town, but that's life. ]
>
>
>
>I am happy to receive suggestions for the requirements of an ICGA infrastructure
>to support ICGA events, and also happy to hear of good examples of such
>infrastructure, technologies involved, and expertise willing to be involved.
>
>I say this not only with my ICGA V-P hat on, but as a Univ lecturer happy to
>engage suitable CS students in suitable, interesting projects which are required
>to solve 'real problems' for 'real customers' by the authenticating body (the
>BCS) in the UK.  Email is more convenient for me than CCC but I don't wish to
>stifle discussion on CCC if that is preferred.
>
>
>
>However, you will note that Chessbase are included in WCCC2004's sponsors, and
>are indeed webcasting the event with Boris' commentaries.  Chessbase offered to
>support the ICGA with their technology at Maastricht in 2002 and that offer was
>welcomed by the Association.  We are very grateful for Chessbase's continued
>interest in the ICGA WCCC and their commitment to webcasting.
>
>
>
>Finally, I thank Omid again for performing his many roles in parallel with
>exercising FALCON very creditably in the event.  He has the support of the ICGA
>personnel there.
>
>
>Guy Haworth
>VP, ICGA


I'm not quite sure what kind of input you want from the CCC-community, although
I'm glad you ask! :)

The way I see it, the community has two major problems:

(1)
Information about pairings, results and current standings was very bad. People
here in CCC asked about results of the first round half a day (and more) after
it was finished. IMHO, the playchess.com server doesn't count as an official
organ to spread this news for the general public.

If the ICGA wanted to do that, they could to so by simply having one person in
charge of that. There's no input from CCC-people required here, as this is not a
technical issue.

Note 1: (and that's an important note)
I guess I speak for everyone here, when I say that we never intended to
critize/attack Omid personally here. The critic was for/against the ICGA. I
agree that one could have done that more constructive (not to mention my stupid
post before, sorry for that) but, please try to understand that for
CC-enthusiasts it can be very depressing to not get any information. :)

Note 2:
The information we get now is much better now, as the official website is
updated rather quickly. (especially considering the fact that the person doing
it is playing in the tournament)


(2)
The real-time games moves. :)
Again, I don't think that the problem lies on the technical side. There are many
ways to make the game-moves available in almost real-time for _everyone_. The
issue _to me_ seems to be that the ICGA doesn't really want that or even can't
because of contracts with Chessbase. Whichever it is, there's not much, we
CCC-people could be of any help.

In the (IMHO) unlikely event that the ICGA signals to the general public, that
they _want_ to provide everyone with real-time information, I'm sure they could
get help from a lot of people here in CCC. Heck, I'm sure we could even organize
a group of people who would write a complete server from scratch for
ICGA-events.

Sargon



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