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Subject: Re: Diep-Crafty

Author: Arturo Ochoa

Date: 06:25:23 07/09/04

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On July 09, 2004 at 09:16:46, Uri Blass wrote:

>On July 09, 2004 at 08:38:43, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>
>>On July 09, 2004 at 08:30:45, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>>
>>>On July 09, 2004 at 06:59:05, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>Crafty show advantage of 1-2 pawns with black and diep in time trouble
>>>>I heard Vincent complaining that Crafty never does the expected moves.
>>>>
>>>>It seems that there is going to be another original excuse for diep failures.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Uri, it is a fact that Diep beated pretty easily Movei. I was online and I
>>>looking the game and I did not see Diepeveen saying anything.
>
>This is not the point
>I usually do not say that people who lose will have another excuse after the
>game.
>The point is that Vincent never apologized about previous behaviour when he
>attacked Crafty and call it primitive evaluation and it is only one of many
>attacks.
>
>If I read Vincent apologizing about his behaviour I will not try to joke about
>Vincent's loses.
>
>Treating other people in the way that was done by Vincent can cause people to
>joke about Vincent's losses.
>

Then, we can create a joined reaction. Must I laught about your lost games and
the level displayed by your engine? Of course, no.  I remember that I asked you
a direct question about Movei and I did not laugh.

The facts that you joke (very bad jokes) about some engine, it is not a better
attitude that the Diepeveen“s bahavior. So what is your point?




>>>
>>>What is more, Vincent told me that Peter Berger had done a very good work with
>>>the Crafty Book. So, I do not understand your behavior.
>>>
>>>Yesterday, you lost. Today, I do not know. Crafty played a better endgame and
>>>won. Good for Crafty.
>>>
>>>So, what is your point?
>>
>>If we speak about bad losers. We can refer to all your messages. "The Machine
>>crashing", "Arena is not a good gui", etc.......
>
>1)Machine crashing is a report about what happened and I do not claim that movei
>could score better without it.
>Giving the information may be productive because maybe some people will help
>me with good advice how to prevent it.
>
>2)Arena was not an excuse and I never claimed that it changed the result.
>I simply did not like the fact that I could not see movei draw decleration.
>
>I noticed the draw by repetition by myself and wondered why I could not see it
>in movei decleration and only after looking again in the screen I found that the
>decleration is in another place in the screen and is a decleration of arena.
>
>Note that I could see movei draw decleration in the logfile later.
>In winboard I never saw the same problem and winboard give the engines to play
>including draw by repetition claims.
>

Instead of filling all the Forum with excuses, we must accept when we loose a
game. Today, Diep lost. Yesterday, Diep beated Movei easily. Again, I dont see
Diepeveen filling all the forum with excuses.

So what is your point?



>
>
>>
>>I do not see Diepeveen filling this Forum with excuses. Instead, you..... are
>>plenly of excuses......
>>
>>What is your point?
>
>All the programs that  beated movei are stronger than movei and I did not claim
>the opposite.
>
>Vincent claimed in the past that Diep is better than Crafty and even claimed
>that Crafty has primitive evaluation and as far as I know he never apologized
>about it.
>
>Uri

Again, what is the relation of this issue with the game between Diep and
Movei????????
What is your point?

Can your order your ideas?




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