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Subject: Re: Diep-Crafty "Diepeveen"

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 07:35:32 07/09/04

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On July 09, 2004 at 10:20:12, Arturo Ochoa wrote:

>On July 09, 2004 at 09:21:33, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On July 09, 2004 at 08:33:38, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>>
>>>On July 09, 2004 at 07:16:57, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 09, 2004 at 07:12:31, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 09, 2004 at 06:59:05, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Crafty show advantage of 1-2 pawns with black and diep in time trouble
>>>>>>I heard Vincent complaining that Crafty never does the expected moves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It seems that there is going to be another original excuse for diep failures.
>>>>>
>>>>>It sounds more to me that another person is doing a said attempt to stir up
>>>>>things again.
>>>>>
>>>>>The first 2 lines make sense, Diep is in time trouble because Crafty doesn't
>>>>>play the expected moves. Your additional lines doesn't have anything to do with
>>>>>it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Please limit yourself to excuses for Movei.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tony
>>>>
>>>>I did not claim that movei is stronger than Crafty or Diep so I do not need to
>>>>make excuses for movei.
>>>>
>>>>Movei on the tournament hardware is certainly significantly weaker than Diep on
>>>>4 opterons.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Who has been giving excuses all the day about Movei? Accept at one that Movei
>>>lost, instead of, finding excuses about that other engines could not avoid Qxg7
>>>or so.
>>>
>>>Today, Crafty won.
>>>
>>>So, what is the relation between the Today Diep game and the way how you lost
>>>against Diep? I do not understand your point.
>>
>>There is no relation between Movei-Diep and Diep-Crafty.
>>
>>The relation is between Diep-Crafty 0-1 and previous posts of Vincent(see
>>another post of me).
>>
>>Uri
>
>Uri, I dont see messages from Vincent. I only see a lot of messages with excuses
>about your lost games. Could you explain what you are talking about?

Arturo,

you still can't get it. Let me explain.

You asked why people made jokes, or were laughing at Diepeveen, although Vincent
didn't say a single word here in these days. Then these people answer you that
this is true but that Vincent formerly always wnt on tangents and insulted
Crafty and its author (will you deny that?) and THEREFORE they are NOW laughing
at Diepeveen. It has nothing to do with what Vincent had said in the last two
days or such.

Arturo, this has something to do with the human memory. And don't forget

GENS UNA SUMUS

Besides all this, I personally find that you and Vincent are doing a good job on
DIEP. But it's simply not good enough to be able to equalize the advantages of
the three top programs. Perhaps next time. Your both ages speak in your favor.
All others are much more old aged... The future is yours.

GENS UNA SUMUS

[I guess that that can also count in computerchess, Arturo?]



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