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Subject: Re: Computers & Humans

Author: steven blincoe

Date: 08:09:20 07/09/04

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>>An interesting game.. which I played poorly, reaching this position:
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>>Yergin,C - Amitraute,R
[D] 2kb4/p2r2R1/1pp2p1p/8/5PQ1/3q3P/5B2/6K1 w
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>>Analysis by Fritz 8:
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>>1. -+ (-3.34): 40.Rg6 Qb1+ 41.Kg2 Qe4+ 42.Kg1 f5 43.Qg2 Rd1+ 44.Kh2 Kb7 45.Qxe4
>>fxe4 46.Rxh6 a5 47.Rh7+ Ka6 48.Kg3 Rd3+
>>2. -+ (-3.50): 40.Rg8 f5 41.Qg2 Kb7 42.Rg6 Qb1+ 43.Kh2 Qe4 44.Qxe4 fxe4 45.Rxh6
>>a5 46.Re6 Rd2
>>3. -+ (-3.66): 40.Rf7 Kc7 41.Rf8 Qd1+ 42.Kg2 Qxg4+ 43.hxg4 a5 44.Bh4 Be7 45.Ra8
>>Kb7 46.Re8
>>4. -+ (-3.69): 40.Qe6 Qd5 41.Qg4 f5 42.Rxd7 Qxd7 43.Qg6 a5 44.Qxh6 a4 45.Qf8
>>Qd1+ 46.Kg2 Qd5+
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>>My Opponent thought I was "Busted", and Fritz certainly confirms it.
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>>My only hope was to get the Rooks off the Board, so a few moves later,
>>we arrive at this position:
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 [D] 8/pk6/1ppq1p1p/2b5/5PQB/6KP/8/8 w - - 0 48
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>>Analysis by Fritz 8:
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>>1. -+ (-4.16): 48.Qg7+ Ka6 49.Qxh6 Qd3+ 50.Kg4 Qd7+ 51.Kg3 f5 52.Bf6 b5 53.Kh4
>>2. -+ (-5.06): 48.Qg6 Qe7 49.Qxh6 Qe2 50.Qg7+ Ka6 51.Bxf6 Bf2+ 52.Kh2 Bh4+
>>53.Qg2 Qxg2+ 54.Kxg2 Bxf6 55.Kg3 Kb5
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>>Yep, Fritz still confirms I'm "Busted".
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>>The Computer Eval, obviously takes into account many factors.. including
>>King Safety. But, being 'safe', also means it's out of play.
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>>The Computer doesn't understand that the White King, Queen & Bishop
>>will overcome the Black Queen & Bishop!
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>>A few moves later, we arrive at this position:
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 [D] 8/p5Q1/kppq1B1p/2b5/5P2/6KP/8/8 b - - 0 49
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>>Analysis by Fritz 8:
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>>1. -+ (-4.53): 49...Qd3+ 50.Kh4 Bf2+ 51.Kg4 Qg3+ 52.Kf5 Qxh3+ 53.Qg4 Qd3+ 54.Ke6
>>Qd5+ 55.Ke7 Bc5+ 56.Ke8 h5 57.Qg5
>>2. -+ (-3.75): 49...b5 50.Be5 Qd3+ 51.Kg4 Qe2+ 52.Kf5 Qh5+ 53.Kf6 Qh4+ 54.Ke6
>>Qxh3+
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>>Fritz still thinks Black is winning.
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>>So.. we arrive at this position:
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[D] 5q2/p3b3/kpp2BQ1/6K1/5P1p/7P/8/8 w - - 0 53
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>>1. -+ (-1.72): 53.f5 Bc5 54.Bg7 Qd8+ 55.Kh5 Kb5 56.f6 Qd5+ 57.Qg5 Qd3 58.Kxh4
>>2. -+ (-1.69): 53.Bxe7 Qxe7+ 54.Kh5 Qe3 55.f5 Qxh3 56.f6 Qc8 57.Kxh4 c5 58.Qg4
>>Qh8+ 59.Kg5 Qg8+ 60.Kf5 Qd5+
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>>Let the Engine run as long as you want...
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>>I think any human can quickly see that White will queen the f Pawn, and
>>Win!
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 [D] 8/p7/kp3PQ1/2p4K/7p/4q2P/8/8 b - - 0 56
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>>Analysis by Fritz 8:
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>>1. = (0.00): 56...Qxh3 57.f7 Qf3+ 58.Kxh4 Qf4+ 59.Kh5 Qh2+ 60.Kg5 Qe5+ 61.Qf5
>>Qg7+ 62.Qg6 Qf8 63.Qg8 Qe7+ 64.Kg4 Qe6+ 65.Kh4
>>2. ² (0.28): 56...Qe5+ 57.Kh6
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>>  Comp.  Eval shows equality.
>> It's obvious to any human I think, that White is Winning.
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 [D] 5Q2/p5Q1/kp5K/2p5/7p/7q/8/8 b - - 0 60
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>>No further comment needed.
>>White Wins of course.
>>
>>
>>I would be interested if any Programmers can tell me what's going on,
>>and 'why', the Computers appear to totally misunderstand certain
>>Positions.
>>Thanks,
>>CY



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