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Subject: Re: ICGA WCCC 2004 coverage

Author: Sean Empey

Date: 13:36:19 07/09/04

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On July 09, 2004 at 15:53:50, GuyHaworth wrote:

>
>I assume your concern is that Playchess.com is not O/S-independent, rather than
>that it is 'proprietory'.  Without the commercial engines, you would not be
>enjoying excellent chess from the likes of FRITZ, JUNIOR and SHREDDER, or the
>audio/video feeds you are getting via Chessbase.
>
>I have logged the 'non-O/S independent' concern, and others that have come up on
>CCC.
>
>
>
>I would be interested to survey which CCC-members complaining about the
>webcasting of the ICGA event are actually ICGA members, and which not.

Why must someone be a member? Isn't the goal to boost membership? You don't do
that by having a closed tournament and being in bed with chessbase. I'm more
interested in the amateur programs than the commercials. There are 20 of each
commercial playing on ICC. I like the atmosphere of ameteur engines, experienced
programmers, new to the field of chess programming and the sharing of ideas.
What do we get from watching for-money commercial feeds? Or what does chessbase
offer your members? It's not like it's hard to setup live games or even relay on
a more used ICS like ICC without gouging people for more money. I don't think
chessbase and ICGA's views and plans are the same. If ICGA is going to become a
commercially tainted org than I will not renew my membership or donate money.

>
>Those who would like better real-time coverage might like to say what they would
>be prepared to pay for this per event.
>
>For comparison, I paid $25 to watch the America's Cup in realtime via a
>simulation and that was good value.
>
>Those who just want a better 'free ride' should realise that they are not
>proposing a 'sustainable model'.  Please assume that someone else has
>articulated the less-than-convincing "I'm not joining the ICGA because the
>real-time relay of their events is less than perfect".
>
>
>
>'World class computer chess' was one of the ten goals set for Artificial
>Intelligence by the historic Dartmouth Conference of 1958.  Arguably, this is
>the goal that has most clearly been reached.
>
>To celebrate this, the ICGA has an ambitious programme running up to the 50th
>Anniversary in 2008.  I am stating the obvious in saying that the best way to
>support the ICGA is to join it or sponsor it.
>
>Putting aside concerns about the lack of non-Windows realtime feeds,
>consideration of the excellent event which the ICGA and the event sponsors have
>worked long and hard to set up might encourage readers to do just that.  I hope
>so.
>
>www.icga.org provides an online method.
>
>I hope you all enjoy the rest of the event as much as you have so far.
>
>
>Guy Haworth, VP, ICGA



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