Author: Frank Phillips
Date: 14:48:40 07/09/04
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On July 09, 2004 at 15:53:50, GuyHaworth wrote: Thank you for posting. > >I assume your concern is that Playchess.com is not O/S-independent, rather than >that it is 'proprietory'. That is one of my concern. But I am also concerned about lock-in by one vendor through one proprietory 'secret' format. Diversity is healthy. I would even suggest it is necessary. >Without the commercial engines, you would not be >enjoying excellent chess from the likes of FRITZ, JUNIOR and SHREDDER, or the >audio/video feeds you are getting via Chessbase. > I cannot enjoy anything, for the obvious reasons. >I have logged the 'non-O/S independent' concern, and others that have come up on >CCC. Good - I hope that something happens as a result. > > > >I would be interested to survey which CCC-members complaining about the >webcasting of the ICGA event are actually ICGA members, and which not. > I am not an ICGA member. I bought some back issue of the magazine when I started chess programming, but frankly ICGA has done little to endear itself to me. From a practical perspective I get infinitely more from CCC and some of its members website, and CCT. >Those who would like better real-time coverage might like to say what they would >be prepared to pay for this per event. > >For comparison, I paid $25 to watch the America's Cup in realtime via a >simulation and that was good value. > >Those who just want a better 'free ride' should realise that they are not >proposing a 'sustainable model'. Please assume that someone else has >articulated the less-than-convincing "I'm not joining the ICGA because the >real-time relay of their events is less than perfect". > For non-MS OS, non-playchess.com the real-time relay is non-existant. Why is this not a convincing reason for not joining ICGA? > > >'World class computer chess' was one of the ten goals set for Artificial >Intelligence by the historic Dartmouth Conference of 1958. Arguably, this is >the goal that has most clearly been reached. Surely you (ICGA) are not claiming credit for this. > >To celebrate this, the ICGA has an ambitious programme running up to the 50th >Anniversary in 2008. I am stating the obvious in saying that the best way to >support the ICGA is to join it or sponsor it. > >Putting aside concerns about the lack of non-Windows realtime feeds, >consideration of the excellent event which the ICGA and the event sponsors have >worked long and hard to set up might encourage readers to do just that. I hope >so. > >www.icga.org provides an online method. > >I hope you all enjoy the rest of the event as much as you have so far. > Doubtful since I cannot watch it. I depend entirely on the efforts of one or two participants posting here, for which I thank them. > >Guy Haworth, VP, ICGA
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