Author: Arturo Ochoa
Date: 17:42:38 07/09/04
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On July 09, 2004 at 19:49:49, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On July 09, 2004 at 16:21:13, Arturo Ochoa wrote: > >>On July 09, 2004 at 14:57:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On July 09, 2004 at 11:50:46, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >>> >>>>On July 09, 2004 at 11:48:15, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 09, 2004 at 11:17:45, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 09, 2004 at 10:51:57, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>you still can't get it. Let me explain. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>You asked why people made jokes, or were laughing at Diepeveen, although Vincent >>>>>>>>didn't say a single word here in these days. Then these people answer you that >>>>>>>>this is true but that Vincent formerly always wnt on tangents and insulted >>>>>>>>Crafty and its author (will you deny that?) and THEREFORE they are NOW laughing >>>>>>>>at Diepeveen. It has nothing to do with what Vincent had said in the last two >>>>>>>>days or such. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Are you crazy or mad? I have not denied anything. Where is your head flying? My >>>>>>>position has always been against of laughing the people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Instead, I have been laughing and creating nonsense durin the las days on your >>>>>>>behalf. Thefore, what is your point? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Again, perhaps you learn to read: I dont underestimate the work of anybody, I >>>>>>>dont laugh about the work done by somebody. What do you have in your head? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>DIEP. But it's simply not good enough to be able to equalize the advantages of >>>>>>>>the three top programs. Perhaps next time. Your both ages speak in your favor. >>>>>>>>All others are much more old aged... The future is yours. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Again, I have not attacked anybody. Why dont you know to read? Nobody is talking >>>>>>>about how good the "top" programs are. I was going to comment this specific game >>>>>>>between Diep and Crafty. and then you began with your garbage agian. What hell >>>>>>>do you com from? Why does your paranoid mind create flames everywhere? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Have you read what I have written here? There is no attacks there... What is >>>>>>>your obsession? I dont understand why your mind is filled with ghosts? Can you >>>>>>>write antyhing with any sense? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Your language betrays you. You've not attacked Uri, I see. <ggg> >>>>> >>>>>Not really. If you begin a war you can expect reactions. If you respect, you >>>>>will be respected. You dont still understand the point. >>>> >>>>I dont attack Uri. I said: What is the relation between the Diepeveen's topic >>>>and the Movei games? >>>> >>>>??????? The relation belongs to other dimension????? ;))) >>> >>> >>>Here is a sample from ICC, just written by Vincent. This gives you an idea of >>>the kind of comments Uri was talking about: >>> >>>quote on------------------------ >>>DIEP(C)(64): so it was another show that you can only lose to crafty when you >>>play real bad >>>quote off----------------------- >>> >>>That was when someone asked him about his "endgame problem" in today's game. >>> >>>It's that kind of continual misinformation and put-down that earns him so much >>>rancor here. When I lost to Junior, I simply said "I got out-played". No "The >>>only way Junior could win was if I played terribly.." >>> >>>Note that I didn't take part in the above ICC channel 64 discussion and did not >>>respond or comment in any way. Seemed totally pointless to do so... >> >>You have read some of my notes about the Diep-Crafty game. I think should be >>clear about my position (Am I wrong?). People criticizes and attacks such >>Diepeveen's actions that I am against with too. >> >>However, if people begin again and again provocating and creating flames, you >>cannot be as a rock all the time. Remember, that you created long threads with >>your personal battle with Diepeveen. If people think that they have the same >>rights to attack, to joke, to laugh about Diep, they will find me. >> >>As this Mr Rolf laughed about the first posting of Omar informing the results of >>the WCC2004, he has done the same thing again and again with Diepeveen, Diep and >>the book's responsible. I dont have to stand the insults of anybody as you dont >>have to do it either. >> >>If Mr. X, Mr Rolfs, Mr...... wants to do it, they know what they will find. > >You say what? > >Arturo, >I can swear here before the whole CCC audience that I did NEVER do that what you >implied above. I did neither laugh about DIEP, nor Diepeveen nor Arturo Ochoa, >nor about Omid, please spell his name correctly, or do you mean Amir, but also >about him I did NOT laugh, nor did I make jokes about any of the mentioned >persons. > >This is an official statement!! No tongue in cheek, no joking. > >Please provide us with the necessary data, message numbers will suffice, so that >everybody can see who's telling falsehood here. My verdict is already clear. I >didn't do that what you implied above. Perhaps you confuse me with someone else. > >Again, at the beginning of this WCCC in Israel I did NOT joke about Omid, >Vincent or Arturo or any other author or co-worker! Period! > >The only think I did, and that was the reason for the whole confusion, I >explained to you what the message of Albert Silver meant. That it was joking, >that it was a satire and no real critic! And after I has sent this message you, >Arturo, went wild against me. Ok, I had also criticised your vocabulary in >answering Albert, and therefore you insulted me with fantasies about my past. My >reaction was to read Google. - This is the whole story. > >So please come forward with the number of messages where I should have ridiculed >authors or co-workers of the Israel WCCC. > >Thanks so far and please no further insults or false allegations please. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The message that proves was deleted by one of the moderators..... This is the email to the moderators..... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Pijl" <richard.pijl@wanadoo.nl> Add to Address Book To: "Arturo Ochoa" <arturo_ochoa_xxi@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: CCC Moderator E-mail CC: ccc@talkchess.com Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 16:14:44 +0200 (CEST) Post is deleted. Richard Pijl. ======================================== Message date : 05-07-2004 13:07 From : "Arturo Ochoa" To : richard.pijl@wanadoo.nl Copy to : Subject : CCC Moderator E-mail [ name: ] Arturo Ochoa [ email: ] arturo_ochoa_xxi@yahoo.com [ body: ] Greetings: You always complain when I must reply rudely to some people. Please, do you think that this is a message from a mental sane (healthy) person? http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?374071 Hopefully, you will atend my request to delete this message. Regards, Arturo Ochoa M. [ user: ] AOchoa --- This message was sent to you by 200.84.125.136 on Mon Jul 5 11:07:04 2004 (GMT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You know that the Moderators have deleted several messages.... So, if you want to face me in another level of confrontations, I am ready. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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