Author: Dan Honeycutt
Date: 17:53:17 07/09/04
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On July 09, 2004 at 20:11:37, mike tubbs wrote: >On July 09, 2004 at 19:27:20, Dan Honeycutt wrote: > >>On July 09, 2004 at 19:15:21, William H Rogers wrote: >> >>>I would love to see such an event with one exception and that is everyone uses >>>the same identical computers. Most people do not have access to multi cpu >>>machines and are interested in performance on machines that we might own. The >>>other reason is if the hardware is identical then only the strengths of the >>>programs will prevail which is what the contest should be all about in the first >>>place. >>>Bill >>>P.S. >>>This is not to knock Crafty or any other program that has been modified to run >>>on parallel machines. I hold Dr. Hayatt in hi esteem. >> >>Have we not beat this equal hardware business to death? >> >>Dan H. > > > And why shouldn't we? If the Goal is to see which program is the strongest, >not who has the best hardware. But the goal is not to see which program is the strongest. It is to see which program targeted for the "chosen" hardware (whatever that might be) is the strongest. How do you choose the hardware? What platform? x86 you say? OK that's a good choice, it's the most popular. That gets rid of Hydra. That gets rid of me if I want to develop on a Mac and do a little assembly optimization. In fact it gets rid of anybody who does assembly anything except x86. Some can still run using emulators you say? Yes, if they don't mind seeing their NPS cut by a factor of 10. Ok now that we got rid of all the fools who weren't smart enough to target the most popular platform (plus a few improbables like Blincoe should he want to show up with one of his beloved dedicated units and Deep Blue should IBM resurrect it) what do we do about processors? Should those who have payed the price for the infamous pointer (3 to 10 percent depending on who you listen to) be rewarded or punished? Rewarded you say. That's fair, that SMP stuff is a lot of work. But they can't have any advantage so everyone gets a quad opteron. We are chess, not major league baseball. There is a problem here with money. Don't dictate. Let the software developers pick their platform. SSDF does a great job of comparing many programs on equal hardware. Dan H.
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