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Subject: Re: Diep-Crafty "Diepeveen"

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 18:10:43 07/09/04

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On July 09, 2004 at 21:01:00, Arturo Ochoa wrote:

>On July 09, 2004 at 19:49:49, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On July 09, 2004 at 16:21:13, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>>
>>>On July 09, 2004 at 14:57:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 09, 2004 at 11:50:46, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 09, 2004 at 11:48:15, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 09, 2004 at 11:17:45, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On July 09, 2004 at 10:51:57, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>you still can't get it. Let me explain.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You asked why people made jokes, or were laughing at Diepeveen, although Vincent
>>>>>>>>>didn't say a single word here in these days. Then these people answer you that
>>>>>>>>>this is true but that Vincent formerly always wnt on tangents and insulted
>>>>>>>>>Crafty and its author (will you deny that?) and THEREFORE they are NOW laughing
>>>>>>>>>at Diepeveen. It has nothing to do with what Vincent had said in the last two
>>>>>>>>>days or such.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Are you crazy or mad? I have not denied anything. Where is your head flying?  My
>>>>>>>>position has always been against of laughing the people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Instead, I have been laughing and creating nonsense durin the las days on your
>>>>>>>>behalf. Thefore, what is your point?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Again, perhaps you learn to read: I dont underestimate the work of anybody, I
>>>>>>>>dont laugh about the work done by somebody. What do you have in your head?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>DIEP. But it's simply not good enough to be able to equalize the advantages of
>>>>>>>>>the three top programs. Perhaps next time. Your both ages speak in your favor.
>>>>>>>>>All others are much more old aged... The future is yours.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Again, I have not attacked anybody. Why dont you know to read? Nobody is talking
>>>>>>>>about how good the "top" programs are. I was going to comment this specific game
>>>>>>>>between Diep and Crafty. and then you began with your garbage agian. What hell
>>>>>>>>do you com from? Why does your paranoid mind create flames everywhere?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Have you read what I have written here? There is no attacks there... What is
>>>>>>>>your obsession? I dont understand why your mind is filled with ghosts?  Can you
>>>>>>>>write antyhing with any sense?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Your language betrays you. You've not attacked Uri, I see. <ggg>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not really. If you begin a war you can expect reactions. If you respect, you
>>>>>>will be respected. You dont still understand the point.
>>>>>
>>>>>I dont attack Uri. I said: What is the relation between the Diepeveen's topic
>>>>>and the Movei games?
>>>>>
>>>>>??????? The relation belongs to other dimension????? ;)))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Here is a sample from ICC, just written by Vincent.  This gives you an idea of
>>>>the kind of comments Uri was talking about:
>>>>
>>>>quote on------------------------
>>>>DIEP(C)(64): so it was another show that you can only lose to crafty when you
>>>>play real bad
>>>>quote off-----------------------
>>>>
>>>>That was when someone asked him about his "endgame problem" in today's game.
>>>>
>>>>It's that kind of continual misinformation and put-down that earns him so much
>>>>rancor here.  When I lost to Junior, I simply said "I got out-played".  No "The
>>>>only way Junior could win was if I played terribly.."
>>>>
>>>>Note that I didn't take part in the above ICC channel 64 discussion and did not
>>>>respond or comment in any way.  Seemed totally pointless to do so...
>>>
>>>You have read some of my notes about the Diep-Crafty game. I think should be
>>>clear about my position (Am I wrong?). People criticizes and attacks such
>>>Diepeveen's actions that I am against with too.
>>>
>>>However, if people begin again and again provocating and creating flames, you
>>>cannot be as a rock all the time. Remember, that you created long threads with
>>>your personal battle with Diepeveen. If people think that they have the same
>>>rights to attack, to joke, to laugh about Diep, they will find me.
>>>
>>>As this Mr Rolf laughed about the first posting of Omar informing the results of
>>>the WCC2004, he has done the same thing again and again with Diepeveen, Diep and
>>>the book's responsible. I dont have to stand the insults of anybody as you dont
>>>have to do it either.
>>>
>>>If Mr. X, Mr Rolfs, Mr...... wants to do it, they know what they will find.
>>
>>You say what?
>>
>>Arturo,
>>I can swear here before the whole CCC audience that I did NEVER do that what you
>>implied above. I did neither laugh about DIEP, nor Diepeveen nor Arturo Ochoa,
>>nor about Omid, please spell his name correctly, or do you mean Amir, but also
>>about him I did NOT laugh, nor did I make jokes about any of the mentioned
>>persons.
>>
>
>You should remember what you said about Omid when he published the first news of
>the WCCC2004: Ar you really Omid? Is that a real web site?
>
>Am I wrong? There is a message deleted by one of the moderators. The other
>messages were also deleted.
>
>Where is your memory? In what dimension?

Arturo,

you are wrong, yes. A message or messages were deleted, but NOT because I
ridiculed Omid. I did not. But also of my messages were deleted because you
started a debate about my past in rgcc and the whole thread were deleted. I did
NOT write IMO a message with the wording "Are you really Omid". That is not my
style. Again, if I had written something that really would have ridiculed you or
Diep I would apologize here at the instant! But I didn't do that. So I can't
help you or you send me the text of the original message. Then I look in my
archive and will react.



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