Author: Arturo Ochoa
Date: 18:20:11 07/09/04
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On July 09, 2004 at 21:10:43, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On July 09, 2004 at 21:01:00, Arturo Ochoa wrote: > >>On July 09, 2004 at 19:49:49, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >> >>>On July 09, 2004 at 16:21:13, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >>> >>>>On July 09, 2004 at 14:57:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 09, 2004 at 11:50:46, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 09, 2004 at 11:48:15, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On July 09, 2004 at 11:17:45, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On July 09, 2004 at 10:51:57, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>you still can't get it. Let me explain. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>You asked why people made jokes, or were laughing at Diepeveen, although Vincent >>>>>>>>>>didn't say a single word here in these days. Then these people answer you that >>>>>>>>>>this is true but that Vincent formerly always wnt on tangents and insulted >>>>>>>>>>Crafty and its author (will you deny that?) and THEREFORE they are NOW laughing >>>>>>>>>>at Diepeveen. It has nothing to do with what Vincent had said in the last two >>>>>>>>>>days or such. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Are you crazy or mad? I have not denied anything. Where is your head flying? My >>>>>>>>>position has always been against of laughing the people. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Instead, I have been laughing and creating nonsense durin the las days on your >>>>>>>>>behalf. Thefore, what is your point? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Again, perhaps you learn to read: I dont underestimate the work of anybody, I >>>>>>>>>dont laugh about the work done by somebody. What do you have in your head? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>DIEP. But it's simply not good enough to be able to equalize the advantages of >>>>>>>>>>the three top programs. Perhaps next time. Your both ages speak in your favor. >>>>>>>>>>All others are much more old aged... The future is yours. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Again, I have not attacked anybody. Why dont you know to read? Nobody is talking >>>>>>>>>about how good the "top" programs are. I was going to comment this specific game >>>>>>>>>between Diep and Crafty. and then you began with your garbage agian. What hell >>>>>>>>>do you com from? Why does your paranoid mind create flames everywhere? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Have you read what I have written here? There is no attacks there... What is >>>>>>>>>your obsession? I dont understand why your mind is filled with ghosts? Can you >>>>>>>>>write antyhing with any sense? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Your language betrays you. You've not attacked Uri, I see. <ggg> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Not really. If you begin a war you can expect reactions. If you respect, you >>>>>>>will be respected. You dont still understand the point. >>>>>> >>>>>>I dont attack Uri. I said: What is the relation between the Diepeveen's topic >>>>>>and the Movei games? >>>>>> >>>>>>??????? The relation belongs to other dimension????? ;))) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Here is a sample from ICC, just written by Vincent. This gives you an idea of >>>>>the kind of comments Uri was talking about: >>>>> >>>>>quote on------------------------ >>>>>DIEP(C)(64): so it was another show that you can only lose to crafty when you >>>>>play real bad >>>>>quote off----------------------- >>>>> >>>>>That was when someone asked him about his "endgame problem" in today's game. >>>>> >>>>>It's that kind of continual misinformation and put-down that earns him so much >>>>>rancor here. When I lost to Junior, I simply said "I got out-played". No "The >>>>>only way Junior could win was if I played terribly.." >>>>> >>>>>Note that I didn't take part in the above ICC channel 64 discussion and did not >>>>>respond or comment in any way. Seemed totally pointless to do so... >>>> >>>>You have read some of my notes about the Diep-Crafty game. I think should be >>>>clear about my position (Am I wrong?). People criticizes and attacks such >>>>Diepeveen's actions that I am against with too. >>>> >>>>However, if people begin again and again provocating and creating flames, you >>>>cannot be as a rock all the time. Remember, that you created long threads with >>>>your personal battle with Diepeveen. If people think that they have the same >>>>rights to attack, to joke, to laugh about Diep, they will find me. >>>> >>>>As this Mr Rolf laughed about the first posting of Omar informing the results of >>>>the WCC2004, he has done the same thing again and again with Diepeveen, Diep and >>>>the book's responsible. I dont have to stand the insults of anybody as you dont >>>>have to do it either. >>>> >>>>If Mr. X, Mr Rolfs, Mr...... wants to do it, they know what they will find. >>> >>>You say what? >>> >>>Arturo, >>>I can swear here before the whole CCC audience that I did NEVER do that what you >>>implied above. I did neither laugh about DIEP, nor Diepeveen nor Arturo Ochoa, >>>nor about Omid, please spell his name correctly, or do you mean Amir, but also >>>about him I did NOT laugh, nor did I make jokes about any of the mentioned >>>persons. >>> >> >>You should remember what you said about Omid when he published the first news of >>the WCCC2004: Ar you really Omid? Is that a real web site? >> >>Am I wrong? There is a message deleted by one of the moderators. The other >>messages were also deleted. >> >>Where is your memory? In what dimension? > >Arturo, > >you are wrong, yes. A message or messages were deleted, but NOT because I >ridiculed Omid. I did not. But also of my messages were deleted because you >started a debate about my past in rgcc and the whole thread were deleted. I did >NOT write IMO a message with the wording "Are you really Omid". That is not my >style. Again, if I had written something that really would have ridiculed you or >Diep I would apologize here at the instant! But I didn't do that. So I can't >help you or you send me the text of the original message. Then I look in my >archive and will react. Of course, your style is more rude and more offensive. I am clear of that. The message was deleted and I dont have the text. The link is there. Period. I dont want anything from you. You have cause enough waste of time. What I must learn is to ignore people like you. You dont deserve any attention. Again, this is the email sent to the moderators: From: "Richard Pijl" <richard.pijl@wanadoo.nl> Add to Address Book To: "Arturo Ochoa" <arturo_ochoa_xxi@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: CCC Moderator E-mail CC: ccc@talkchess.com Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 16:14:44 +0200 (CEST) Post is deleted. Richard Pijl. ======================================== Message date : 05-07-2004 13:07 From : "Arturo Ochoa" To : richard.pijl@wanadoo.nl Copy to : Subject : CCC Moderator E-mail [ name: ] Arturo Ochoa [ email: ] arturo_ochoa_xxi@yahoo.com [ body: ] Greetings: You always complain when I must reply rudely to some people. Please, do you think that this is a message from a mental sane (healthy) person? http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?374071 Hopefully, you will atend my request to delete this message. Regards, Arturo Ochoa M. [ user: ] AOchoa --- This message was sent to you by 200.84.125.136 on Mon Jul 5 11:07:04 2004 (GMT). Such link was deleted and it was on July 5th and it was the originator of the cnfrontation. Again, I dont have problems.... People like you must be confronted in the same terms.
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