Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 10:05:50 07/10/04
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On July 10, 2004 at 12:08:23, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>>Don't shout if you want to write your opinions! This post here is a marvelous
>>proof for what I diagnosed. Albert began it with a satirical remark. Arturo
>>misunderstood it as an insult. Arturo, this is simply out of any reasonable
>>context. Because you always speak about your country, let me tell you that in
>>Europe at least it's bad if you can't differentiate satire & joking and insults.
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Because this is my last post to you I give you some advice for free. This making
of ///////// this is shouting and this is regarded as offensive and impolite. It
is like using Capital Letters.
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>Satire: a way of talking or writing about something in wich you deliberately
>make them funny so people will see their faults.
You are not that badly informed. It is about faults. It is about making clear
where the faults are. It is NOT insultive. Because in special we in chess know
that it is all about faults and their funny exploitation. But it's not about
insults.
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>It is evident that you do not understand the meaning of this. The person who has
>been out of context, dimension and ubication is you. Nobody has the right to
>make funny the works of others. If you do that, you think that it is _funny_ to
>satire a Diep fault and makes publicly Diep as a stupid thing, you are out of
>order, out of context and out of this planet.
Nope, I do NOT think that Diep is a stupid thing but I think that it's a good
thing to publish the faults in the arguments of the Diep people. Criticism is
the base of all science. It is really a psychological thing for people who can't
stand that their faults are reveiled. They fantasize as if they could get rid of
their faults if they weren't published... But the funny thing is [and that is a
so-called REAL-SATIRE, a German expression] they they themselves had made public
their faults!!! Normally nobody must have commented because you yourself have
made all clear for everybody who can read. A mega fault is certainly if someone
takes a satirical remark and claims of having been insulted and then is
insulting back, that is not clever. Sorry, but this is all basic logic and
psychology. I didn't invent these things.
So, that was it. Case closed. No need to answer, I'm away now. I won't respond
also if you make new insults. All that doesn't matter anymore. I hold it like
Bob with Vincent. It's really not worth it. It makes no sense. Rational people
would be happy to learn something new, to learn from their own faults. This is
not something you must be ashamed of. We all must learn, no matter how old we
are. If we stop learning then we have stopped progressing. Everyone is entitled
to make his own faults and iff he doesn't like criticism then it's also fine
with me. But don't expect me to explain something to you anymore. The third
time at last it becomes my own fault if I'ld do it. So better stopping it here.
+++++++Finito++++++
+++++++TheEnd++++++
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>>If you fall into that trap you're lost. A satire isn't insultive per definition.
>>You must learn that. Albert then wrote something nasty because he simply
>>couldn't understand why someone here in CCC couldn't understand a satire. So,
>>then it was most unwanted that you insulted him as a lunatic running away from
>>asylum.
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>No, you are in you own trap. You have been saying all kind of craps over the
>last 5 years. What must I stand you behavior?
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>>I saw that and made some funny remarks about it. That however wasn't insultive
>>either. So your reaction, that you insulted me now as a lunatic too was most
>>unwanted and wrong.
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>It is only funny for your head that others looks like stupid. Every time that
>anybody does that, I will react in the same tone. Everyone that calls me lunatic
>and fanatics, will receive the same reaction. What do you think that you have
>rights to insult and satire the people?
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>>Don't you see the cause and the effect chain? You have a misunderstanding and
>>others are responsible for that? And where did I laugh about Diep or you? You
>>were completely unknown for me before your nice misunderstanding here in CCC. VD
>>of course has been known since long.
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>There is not misundestandting. People doesnt like to look like stupid. A satire
>when people looks like stupid is not funny for anybody. You began all this crap
>5 days ago and you continue in the same tone. I have pointed out my position
>about this matter, but you dont have the right to do the same thing.
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>>I am of a completely different generation than you. Isn't it allowed to smile
>>about someone who misunderstands a satirical remark and becomes insultive? I
>>thought I could help you to get a better understanding. Honestly that was my
>>sole dedication. Instead of thankyou I was insulted as being a lunatic... Isn't
>>it a bit evil that experience?
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>The point is not you are 200 years old. Nobody has the right to insult other
>people. You began all this crap. If you dont respect yourself, you wont respect
>anybody. If you dont respect anybody, dont expect to be respected. Period. The
>evil experience is all your nonses written for 5 days.
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>>But this now is really my last post to you; you have simply not the necessary
>>understanding and we both are very weak in our English. I learned it at school
>>and that is almost 50 years ago. Too late to make improvements now. At least for
>>me.
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>Fortunately, you close the door of your head. Of course, English is not my
>native english and it is impossible to reply in "your correct english", the
>inmense amount of nonsense produced by you in 5 days. You are not the firs
>person who has begun all the nonsense (insults, satire, etc....)
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>As a psychologist I saw now for several times how you are trying to argue.
>>Ok, you're defending yourself. Normal thing to do. But you confuse cause and
>>effect. If I make a little joke about the proven stubborness of someone, I don't
>>expect to be insulted as lunatic. I know how lunatics are. They are not like me
>>at least. Because normally it is my job to diagnose if other people are
>>lunatics. - So please, because you didn't apologize, I simply end this
>>communication. For the best of both of us.
>>
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>Of course, you dont understand the context. You began all the confrontation 5
>days ago and you want to escape as the great Houdini. But you dont the talent of
>Houdini escaping of your responsability.
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>>All the best for your good work on Diep. Please don't forget to delete this cxd5
>>move in Diep's book... ;)
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>There is clear that you dont understand a coin. You close a message with another
>bad joke. Really, it shows what your intentions are.
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>>With best wishes from Europe, Rolf
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>> +++++++++++++Finito+++++++++++++++++++
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>50% of me is european and I dont nee your false best wishes. Close the door and
>face your mistakes.
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