Author: Uri Blass
Date: 12:12:41 07/10/04
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On July 10, 2004 at 14:50:57, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>A joke game with a question:
>
>As I replay the game Kasimdzhanov vs. Adams (4), see here:
>
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?375549
>
>I show in the book of Junior 8, and I found a killer-variation with
>an trojaner.
>
>
>Here:
>
>[Event "P3 600, Blitz:30'"]
>[Site "Privat"]
>[Date "2004.07.10"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Junior 8"]
>[Black "Nemeth, Eduard"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[ECO "C68"]
>[Annotator "Nemeth,Eduard"]
>[PlyCount "237"]
>[TimeControl "1800"]
>
>{64MB, Junior8.ctg, P3 600} 1. e4 {0} e5 {2} 2. Nf3 {0} Nc6 {2} 3. Bb5 {0} a6 {
>(g6) 2} 4. Bxc6 {0} dxc6 {2} 5. O-O {0} Bg4 {(Dd6) 3} 6. h3 {0} h5 {(Lh5) 3} 7.
>c3 {0} Nh6 {(Dd3) 0} 8. hxg4 {0.60/16 91} hxg4 {4} 9. Nxe5 {0.00/15 126} Qh4 {8
>} 10. Qb3 {0.00/11 33} O-O-O {(Ld6) 51} 11. Rd1 {-2.80/11 91} Nf5 {35} 12. Kf1
>{-#10/14 72} Qh1+ {87} 13. Ke2 {-#10/3 87} Ng3+ {16} 14. Ke3 {-#8/13 26} Qxg2 {
>11} 15. Qc4 {-#7/13 51} Be7 {60} 16. Qd4 {-#6/14 1} Rxd4 {34} 17. f3 {-#5/15 30
>} Qe2+ {29} 18. Kxd4 {-#4/18 9} Rd8+ {(Sf5+) 53} 19. Nd7 {-#4/3 1} Nf5+ {
>(Txd7+) 20} 20. Ke5 {-#4/22 37} Qh2+ {16} 21. Kxf5 {-#3/61 16} g6+ {12} 22.
>Kxg4 {-#3/3 12} f5+ {(Dh4#) 31} 23. exf5 {-#2/3 1} Qg2+ {(Dh4#) 8} 24. Kf4 {
>-7.13/3 1} Qg5+ {11} 25. Ke4 {-17.64/14 65} Qxf5+ {8} 26. Ke3 {-#10/14 44} Re8
>{5} 27. d4 {-#9/14 45} Bg5+ {16} 28. Kf2 {-#9/3 16} Bh4+ {8} 29. Kg1 {-#7/16 38
>} Qxf3 {3} 30. Ne5 {-#6/15 41} Rxe5 {13} 31. Rf1 {-#5/17 12} Bf2+ {56} 32. Rxf2
>{-#4/61 56} Re1+ {7} 33. Rf1 {-#4/61 6} Qg3+ {(Txf1+) 40} 34. Kh1 {-#2/3 0}
>Qh3+ {(Txf1#) 7} 35. Kg1 {-#2/3 0} Qxf1+ {(Txf1#) 5} 36. Kh2 {-#4/3 1} Rxc1 {
>(Te2+) 3} 37. Na3 {-#6/14 25} Rxa1 {(Df2+) 2} 38. Kg3 {-#6/15 26} Rxa2 {
>(Dd3+) 3} 39. Nc4 {-#7/14 43} Qxc4 {3} 40. Kf4 {-#6/16 35} Rxb2 {(Df1+) 4} 41.
>Kg5 {-#5/17 33} Qd5+ {(Df1) 2} 42. Kh6 {-#5/19 42} Qh5+ {(Df7) 2} 43. Kg7 {
>-22.45/3 2} Qh7+ {(Df5) 2} 44. Kxh7 {-21.40/19 36} Rh2+ {(g5) 3} 45. Kxg6 {
>-19.37/20 38} Rh6+ {(a5) 3} 46. Kxh6 {-13.42/19 46} a5 {2} 47. Kg5 {
>-13.42/24 23} a4 {2} 48. Kf4 {-13.72/22 25} a3 {2} 49. Ke3 {-14.75/22 22} a2 {
>17} 50. Kd3 {-15.42/23 104} Kd7 {(a1D) 14} 51. Kd2 {-15.42/21 16} b5 {(a1D) 10}
>52. Kc2 {-16.02/19 21} a1=Q {5} 53. Kd3 {-16.02/15 74} Qd1+ {3} 54. Ke4 {
>-24.91/15 36} Qc2+ {(b4) 4} 55. Kf4 {-24.92/15 20} Qxc3 {(Dc1+) 2} 56. Kg5 {
>-26.54/13 22} Qxd4 {2} 57. Kg6 {-27.28/14 15} c5 {(Ke6) 2} 58. Kf5 {
>-27.85/14 21} c4 {(Ke7) 1} 59. Kg6 {-28.30/13 15} c3 {(De4+) 10} 60. Kg5 {
>-#5/14 9} c5 {(c2) 3} 61. Kh5 {-#5/14 9} b4 {(c2) 2} 62. Kg6 {-#5/14 8} b3 {
>(c2) 2} 63. Kf7 {-#5/13 7} Qd5+ {(c2) 3} 64. Kf6 {-#5/15 9} Kc6 {(c2) 1} 65.
>Kg7 {-#5/14 7} Qd6 {(c2) 2} 66. Kg8 {-#5/14 6} Kd5 {(c2) 1} 67. Kf7 {-#5/14 6}
>Ke5 {(c2) 5} 68. Ke8 {-#4/16 6} Qc7 {(c2) 3} 69. Kf8 {-28.86/3 1} Ke4 {(c2) 3}
>70. Kg8 {-#3/18 6} c2 {5} 71. Kf8 {-#3/23 2} c4 {(Kd4) 6} 72. Kg8 {-#4/17 6}
>Kd3 {(c1D) 2} 73. Kf8 {-#4/15 6} Qa7 {(c1D) 1} 74. Ke8 {-#4/16 6} c3 {(b2) 2}
>75. Kd8 {-#4/14 5} b2 {1} 76. Ke8 {-#3/20 2} Ke3 {(b1D) 3} 77. Kf8 {-#3/24 5}
>Kf3 {(b1D) 1} 78. Ke8 {-#3/16 7} Kg3 {(b1D) 1} 79. Kf8 {-#3/21 4} Kh4 {(b1D) 1}
>80. Ke8 {-#3/22 5} Kh5 {(b1D) 2} 81. Kf8 {-#3/14 4} Kg5 {(b1D) 1} 82. Ke8 {
>-#3/20 4} Kf5 {(b1D) 1} 83. Kf8 {-#3/19 4} Ke5 {(b1D) 1} 84. Ke8 {-#3/20 4}
>b1=B {(b1D) 4} 85. Kf8 {-#3/12 3} Kf4 {(Kf6) 4} 86. Ke8 {-#4/12 4} Ke3 {(c1D) 1
>} 87. Kf8 {-#3/15 4} Kd2 {(c1D) 1} 88. Ke8 {-#4/12 4} Kc1 {(c1D) 1} 89. Kd8 {
>-#4/13 4} Kb2 {(La2) 1} 90. Ke8 {-#4/13 3} Ka3 {(c1D) 2} 91. Kd8 {-#4/12 3} Kb4
>{(c1D) 2} 92. Ke8 {-#4/13 4} c1=B {(c1D) 2} 93. Kf8 {-#4/11 3} Kc4 {(Lg6) 5}
>94. Ke8 {-#4/12 2} Kd4 {(Lg6+) 1} 95. Kf8 {-#3/13 3} Ke4 {(La3+) 1} 96. Ke8 {
>-#4/11 3} Kf3 {(Lg5) 1} 97. Kf8 {-#3/11 2} Kg2 {(La3+) 1} 98. Ke8 {-#4/11 3}
>Bh7 {(Lg6+) 4} 99. Kd8 {-#3/11 3} c2 {(Lg5+) 3} 100. Ke8 {-#3/11 4} Kf2 {
>(Lg5) 1} 101. Kf8 {-#3/10 1} Ke2 {(Lg5) 1} 102. Ke8 {-24.83/3 1} Kd2 {(Kd1) 1}
>103. Kd8 {-#4/10 2} Qd7+ {(La3) 2} 104. Kxd7 {-21.47/3 2} Bd3 {(Lb2) 3} 105.
>Kd6 {-21.57/8 3} Kc3 {(Kd1) 1} 106. Kd7 {-21.57/7 3} Kc4 {(Le3) 1} 107. Kd8 {
>-21.41/8 3} Ba3 {(Lg5+) 2} 108. Kd7 {-21.40/7 2} Kd5 {(Lf5+) 2} 109. Ke8 {
>-21.04/7 2} Bb2 {(Ld6) 2} 110. Kd7 {-20.78/3 2} Bc3 {(c1D) 1} 111. Ke7 {
>-20.92/3 2} Ke5 {(c1D) 1} 112. Kd7 {-20.88/3 2} Be4 {(c1D) 2} 113. Ke7 {
>-9.56/3 2} Bd5 {(c1D) 1} 114. Kd7 {-9.63/3 3} Be6+ {(c1D) 2} 115. Kc6 {
>-9.24/3 3} Bb3 {(c1D) 2} 116. Kd7 {-8.81/3 3} Ba4+ {(c1D) 8} 117. Ke7 {
>-8.71/3 2} Bd7 {(c1D) 9} 118. Kd8 {-6.63/3 2} c1=B {(c1D) 4} 119. Kxd7 {
>-8.66/3 3} 1/2-1/2
>
>a) I would not mates Junior, I would wins on time.
>
>:)
>
>B) I would win on time, but this with two black bishops!
>
>:)
>
>c) Yes, I hould me two black bishops and Juniors Time was then over.
>
>Is this now a draw (see gamenotation) or is it win on time for black?
>
>Endposition:
>
>Junior 8 - Nemeth,E, Blitz:30' Privat
>
>[D]8/3K4/8/4k3/8/2b5/8/2b5 b - - 0 1
>
>As Junior 8 played his last move, he hase never time.
>
>(German: weiss überschritt mit seinem letzten Zug die Zeit, auch die Anzeige
>zeigte nicht nur 0.00 sondern "Rot = ZEIT". Hat nun schwarz gewonnen, oder ist
>die Partie dennoch remis weil schwarz nicht mattsetzen kann? Wäre die Partie zB.
>am einem Normalen Brett gelaufen so würde weiss behaupten können, dass er seinen
>letzten Zug noch vor dem Fall des Plättchens ausspielte, schwarz hingegen genau
>anders herum. Es gibt keine Zeugen. Was nun? :-)
>
>
>What says You: Win for Black or draw in this case? :)
>
>Have Joy with the game!
>
>:-)
>
>Eduard
>
>PS: the game was real played, no Joke here!
>
>
>My World:
>
>http://www.beepworld.de/members37/computerschach/
Draw.
The chess rules say that it is a draw because you had not mating material in the
position when Junior lost on time.
Uri
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