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Subject: Re: Perhaps the best CC game I ever saw ... "Unsterbliche with Pepito" .

Author: Vincent Lejeune

Date: 15:04:56 07/10/04

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According to latest Chessmaster (The King 3.33) after the blunder 12...Qxe5
white is already better :
Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/4	-0.96	5805		13.dxc6 Ng3+ 14.Ne2 Nxh1 15.cxb7
					Bxb7 16.Nd2 Qxh2
0:00	1/5	-0.79	24839		13.dxc6 Ng3+ 14.Be2 Nxh1 15.Nf3 Qf4
0:00	1/6	-0.43	121084		13.dxc6 Ng3+ 14.Be2 Nxh1 15.Nf3
					Qd5 16.c7
0:01	1/7	-0.53	319743		13.dxc6 Ng3+ 14.Be2 Nxh1 15.Nf3
					Qf4 16.Qc5 Qe4
0:03	1/8	-0.05	922249		13.dxc6 Ng3+ 14.Be2 Nxh1 15.Nf3
					Qe6 16.Qc5 bxc6 17.Nc3
0:08	1/9	0.00	2680772		13.dxc6 Ng3+ 14.Be2 Nxh1 15.Nf3
					Qe6 16.Nd4 Qe5 17.Nf3
0:21	1/10	0.00	7039919		13.dxc6 Ng3+ 14.Be2 Nxh1 15.Nf3
					Qe6 16.Nd4 Qe5 17.Nf3
2:05	1/11	1.19	39298611	13.dxc6 Ng3+ 14.Be2 Nxh1 15.Nf3
					Qe6 16.Nd4 Qf6 17.Qe4+ Kd8 18.Qd5+
					Ke8 19.cxb7 Qxf2+ 20.Kd1 Qg1+ 21.Kc2
4:44	1/12	1.17	88915468	13.dxc6 Ng3+ 14.Be2 Nxh1 15.Nf3
					Qf4 16.Qc5 Qc7 17.Nc3 b6 18.Qg5
					f6 19.Qe3+ Kd8 20.Nb5

Instead, TheKing suggest 12...Nb4 with black advantage :
Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/5	-0.96	12267		12...Qxe5 13.dxc6 Ng3+ 14.Ne2 Nxh1
					15.cxb7 Bxb7 16.Nd2 Qxh2
0:00	1/5	-1.10	14391		12...Nxb4 13.Bb5+ Kf8 14.Qxe4 Nxd5
					15.Bd3
0:00	1/6	-1.20	46128		12...Nxb4 13.Qxe4 Nxd5 14.Bb5+
					Kf8 15.Qxd5 Qxb1+ 16.Qd1 Qxd1+
					17.Kxd1
0:00	1/7	-1.26	104126		12...Nxb4 13.Qxe4 O-O 14.Nf3 Qxa2
					15.Bd3 Nxd3+ 16.Qxd3
0:01	1/8	-1.12	297566		12...Nxb4 13.Qxe4 Nxd5 14.Bd3 Be6
					15.Ne2 Qxa2 16.Nd2
0:02	1/9	-1.20	817716		12...Nxb4 13.Qxe4 O-O 14.a3 Re8
					15.Nf3 Nxd5 16.Bd3 Nf6
0:07	1/10	-1.15	2442603		12...Nxb4 13.Bb5+ Kf8 14.Qxe4 Nxd5
					15.Ne2 Qxa2 16.O-O Be6 17.Nd4 Kg8
0:22	1/11	-1.24	6945820		12...Nxb4 13.Bb5+ Kd8 14.Qxe4 Qxa2
					15.Nc3 Qa1+ 16.Nd1 Qd4 17.Qxd4
					Nc2+ 18.Kf1 Nxd4 19.Bc4
0:55	1/12	-1.25	17262970	12...Nxb4 13.Bb5+ Kd8 14.Qxe4 Qxa2
					15.Nc3 Qa1+ 16.Nd1 Qd4 17.f3 Qxe4+
					18.fxe4 a6 19.Be2 Bd7
2:30	1/13	-1.24	48120464	12...Nxb4 13.Bb5+ Kd8 14.Qxe4 Qxa2
					15.Nc3 Qa1+ 16.Nd1 Qd4 17.Qxd4
					Nc2+ 18.Kf1 Nxd4 19.Nc3 Nxb5 20.Nxb5
					Bd7

15...Qf4 is a blunder
Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	0.92	2103		16.Qc5 Qc7 17.cxb7 Qxc5 18.bxa8=Q
					Qxb4+ 19.Nbd2
0:00	1/4	0.92	4722		16.Qc5 Qc7 17.cxb7 Qxc5 18.bxa8=Q
					Qxb4+ 19.Nbd2
0:00	1/5	0.63	30067		16.Qc5 Qc7 17.Nc3 bxc6 18.Nb5 Qd7
0:00	1/6	1.16	77020		16.Qc5 Qc7 17.Nc3 b6 18.Qd4 f6
					19.Qd5
0:00	1/7	1.06	181986		16.Qc5 Qc7 17.Nc3 b6 18.Qg5 f6
					19.Qe3+ Kd8 20.Nb5
0:02	1/8	2.41	735540		16.Qc5 Qc7 17.Ng5 f6 18.Qe3+ Qe5
					19.cxb7 Qxe3 20.bxa8=Q Qxf2+ 21.Kd1
					Qf5 22.Qxa7 Qxb1+ 23.Kd2
0:07	1/9	4.13	2488377		16.Qc5 Qc7 17.Bb5 b6 18.Qd4 Ba6
					19.Qe3+ Kd8 20.Qd4+ Kc8 21.Bxa6+
					Kb8 22.Qxg7
0:14	1/10	4.42	4945535		16.Qc5 Qc7 17.Bb5 b6 18.Qd4 Be6
					19.Bd6 Rd8 20.Bxc7 Rxd4 21.Nxd4
					Bd5 22.f3
1:01	1/11	6.78	21472650	16.Qc5 Qc7 17.Nc3 b6 18.Qg5 f6
					19.Qe3+ Kf7 20.Bc4+ Kg6 21.Nd5
					Qd8 22.Qe4+ Bf5 23.Ne7+ Qxe7 24.Qxe7

15...Qf5 is a little better
Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/6	0.00	78432		15...Qe6 16.Nd4 Qe5 17.Nf3
0:00	1/7	1.12	167915		15...Qe6 16.Nd4 Qf6 17.Qe4+ Kd8
					18.Qd5+ Ke8 19.cxb7 Qxf2+ 20.Kd1
					Qg1+ 21.Kc2
0:01	1/8	1.78	560161		15...Qe6 16.Nd4 Qe5 17.Nb5 Qf4
					18.Qc5 Qxf2+ 19.Qxf2 Nxf2 20.Nd6+
					Ke7 21.Nxc8+ Ke6 22.Kxf2 Raxc8
					23.cxb7
0:02	1/8	1.06	868658		15...Qf4 16.Qc5 Qc7 17.Nc3 b6 18.Qg5
					f6 19.Qe3+ Kd8 20.Nb5
0:05	1/9	2.41	1710907		15...Qf4 16.Qc5 Qc7 17.Ng5 f6 18.Qe3+
					Qe5 19.cxb7 Qxe3 20.bxa8=Q Qxf2+
					21.Kd1 Qf5 22.Qxa7 Qxb1+ 23.Kd2
0:09	1/9	2.30	2784333		15...Qc7 16.Nc3 bxc6 17.Nd5 Qb7
					18.Ba6 cxd5 19.Qe2+ Kd8 20.Bxb7
					Bxb7 21.Qe7+ Kc8 22.Qxf7
0:10	1/9	1.67	3019408		15...Qf5 16.cxb7 Qxc2 17.bxa8=Q
					Qxb1+ 18.Bd1 Qf5 19.Kf1 a5 20.Qxa5
					Qxa5 21.Bxa5 Bb7 22.Be2
0:15	1/10	2.03	4707979		15...Qf5 16.cxb7 Qxc2 17.bxa8=Q
					Qxb1+ 18.Bd1 Qf5 19.Kf1 Kd8 20.Kg1
					Qd7 21.Ba5+ Ke7 22.Qe4+ Kf8
0:39	1/11	1.90	12856240	15...Qf5 16.cxb7 Qxc2 17.bxa8=Q
					Qxb1+ 18.Bd1 Qf5 19.Kf1 Qd7 20.Qe4+
					Qe6 21.Qd4 Qg4 22.Qe5+ Be6 23.Qc5
2:06	1/12	2.36	41142848	15...Qf5 16.cxb7 Qxc2 17.bxa8=Q
					Qxb1+ 18.Bd1 Qf5 19.Kf1 Qd7 20.Qe4+
					Qe6 21.Qd4 Qb6 22.Qxb6 axb6 23.Kg1
					Nxf2 24.Kxf2


conclusion : positions with trapped knight who took rook in the corner are hard
to master, most of amateur engine will blunber in such position.


On July 10, 2004 at 15:49:13, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I am sitting for my system, replay the games of ATL-League B (my new tournament
>seria) and found this one:
>
>http://www.amateurschach.de/forum/replay/replay.htm
>Pepito 1.59 - Abrok 5.0 on Dual Xeon 2.8 ...
>Here you can replay the complete game.
>
>That's computer chess, really?
>I don't know!
>
>After move 14 (black knight takes the second rock from white) the game is over!
>
>PGN file:
>[Event "2-02"]
>[Site "Schweich-Issel"]
>[Date "2004.07.08"]
>[Round "1"]
>[White "Pepito 1.59"]
>[Black "Abrok 5.0"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "B13"]
>[PlyCount "52"]
>[EventDate "2004.??.??"]
>
>1. e4 c6 2. c4 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Bg5 Qb6 {
>(Db6 b3 Se4 Le3 e6 Ld3 Lb4+ Kf1 0-0) 0.44/10 15} 6. b3 {
>(b3 Sc6 Le3 Sg4 Sf3 dxc4 Lxc4 Sxe3) -0.30/9 9} 6... e5 {
>(e5 dxe5 Lb4+ Ke2 Sg4 Sh3 dxc4 Dd5 Sc6) 0.54/11 22} 7. dxe5 {
>(dxe5 Lb4+ Sd2 Se4 c5 Dxc5 Le3 Dxe3+ fxe3 Lxd2+ Dxd2 Sxd2 Kxd2) -0.40/9 19}
>7... Bb4+ {(Lb4+ Ld2 Se4 De2 Dd4 Lxb4 Dxa1 Dc2 Dxe5 cxd5 Ld7 Ld3) 0.80/11 17}
>8. Bd2 {(Ld2 Se4 De2 Dd4 Lxb4 Dxa1 Dc2 Dxe5 Sf3 Dc7) -1.11/10 1} 8... Ne4 {
>(Se4 De2 Dd4 Lxb4 Dxa1 Dc2 Dxe5 cxd5 Sg3+ Se2 Lf5) 1.18/11 18} 9. Qe2 {
>(De2 Dd4 Lxb4 Dxa1 Dc2 Sc6 La3 Sc3 Dxc3 Dxb1+ Lc1 dxc4 Lxc4 Dxa2) -1.48/10 1}
>9... Qd4 {(Dd4 Lxb4 Dxa1 Dd3 Dxa2 Le2 Sc6 cxd5 Sxb4 Dxe4 Dxb3) 1.18/11 17} 10.
>Bxb4 {(Lxb4 Dxa1 Dc2 Lf5 Ld3 Sc6 Ld6 Sd4 Dd1 Sxd6 exd6 Lxd3 Dxd3 dxc4) -1.48/10
>} 10... Qxa1 {
>(Dxa1 Dc2 Sc6 cxd5 Dxe5 Lb5 Dxd5 Lxc6+ Dxc6 Dxc6+ bxc6) 2.02/11 14} 11. Qc2 {
>(Dc2 Lf5 cxd5 Sg3 Lb5+ Kd8 La5+ b6 Lc3 Lxc2 Lxa1 Sxh1 Sc3 Sd7) -1.48/10} 11...
>Nc6 {
>(Sc6 cxd5 Dxe5 Lb5 Dxd5 Lxc6+ Dxc6 Dxc6+ bxc6 Sf3 a5 Lc3 Sxc3 Sxc3) 1.84/11 15}
>12. cxd5 {(cxd5 Sxb4 Dxe4 Sxd5 Ld3 Le6 Da4+ Ld7 De4 Tc8 Se2 Le6) -1.08/11 21}
>12... Qxe5 {(Dxe5 Lb5 Dxd5 Lxc6+ Dxc6 Dxc6+ bxc6 f3 Tb8 La3 Sf6 Sc3) 1.68/11 20
>} 13. dxc6 {
>(dxc6 Sg3+ Se2 Sxh1 Lc3 Dc5 De4+ Le6 Ld4 Db4+ Sbc3 0-0 cxb7) -0.63/10 15} 13...
>Ng3+ {(Sg3+ Le2 Sxh1 Sf3 Df4 Dc5 De4 Sc3 De6 c7 a6 Dd5) 1.82/10 31} 14. Be2 {
>(Le2) -0.63/10} 14... Nxh1 {
>(Sxh1 Sf3 Df4 Dc5 Dc7 Sc3 b6 Sb5 bxc5 Sxc7+ Kd8 Sxa8 cxb4) -0.06/11 29} 15. Nf3
>{(Sf3 Dc7 cxb7 Dxb7 Lb5+ Dxb5 De4+ Le6 Dxa8+ Kd7 Dxa7+ Kc8 Ld6 Db7 Dc5+ Kd8
>Da5+ Ke8 Kf1) 2.40/12 27} 15... Qf4 {
>(Df4 Dc5 Dc7 Sc3 b6 Sb5 bxc5 Sxc7+ Kd8 Sxa8 cxb4 c7+ Ke7 Lb5) -0.44/11 15} 16.
>Qc5 {(Dc5 Dc7 Lb5 b6 Dd4 La6 Ld6 Dc8 De4+ De6 Dxe6+ fxe6 Lxa6 Td8) 3.21/10 11}
>16... Qc7 {(Dc7 Sg5 bxc6 Lh5 g6 Lf3) -0.44/11 24} 17. Nc3 {(Sc3) 3.21/10 1}
>17... b6 {(b6 Dd4 Le6 Sb5 Dxc6 Sd6+ Kd8 Sxf7+) -0.62/10 29} 18. Qg5 {(Dg5 f6 De
>3+ Kf7 Lc4+ Kg6 Sd5 Dd8 Sf4+ Kh6 Se6+ Kh5 Sxd8 Txd8 De7 Lg4 Dxg7 Lxf3 gxf3) 7.
>83/11 15} 18... f6 {(f6 Sb5 De7 Df4 Dd8 Sc7+ Kf7 Lc4+ Kg6 Se5+) -3.68/10 9} 19.
>Qe3+ {(De3+ Kf7 Lc4+ Kg6 Sh4+ Kh5 Le2+ Kxh4 Le7 Dd6 Lxd6 Lg4 g3+ Kh3 Lxg4+
>Kxg4 De4+ Kh5 Dxh1) 8.16/10 1} 19... Kf7 {
>(Kf7 Lc4+ Kg6 Sd5 Dd8 Sf4+ Kh6 Se6+ Kh5 g4+) -4.98/13 28} 20. Bc4+ {
>(Lc4+ Kg6) M11/9} 20... Kg6 {(Kg6 Sd5 Dd8 Sf4+ Kh6 Se6+ Kh5 g4+ Kxg4 De4+ Kh5
>Dh4+ Kg6 Dg4+ Kh6 Dxg7+ Kh5) -8.50/13 37} 21. Nh4+ {(Sh4+ Kh5) M10/9} 21... Kh5
>{(Kh5 De4 Dxh2) 3.00/2} 22. Be2+ {(Le2+ Lg4) M9/9} 22... Kxh4 {
>(Kxh4 De4+ Kg5 Sd5 f5 h4+ Kh6 Df3 g6 Sxc7) -5.58/12 17} 23. Be7 {(Le7 De5) M7/8
>} 23... h5 {(h5 Dd4+ Kg5 Sd5 Dxh2 Lxf6+ Kg6 Lxg7 Dg1+ Kd2) 0.82/9 9} 24. Ne4 {
>(Se4 Df4 Dxf4+ Lg4 Dg5+ fxg5 Lxg5+) M4/4} 24... Qf4 {(Df4 Dg3+) -M7/14 2} 25.
>Qxf4+ {(Dxf4+ Lg4) M3/2} 25... Bg4 {(Lg4 Lxg4 hxg4 Sxf6) -6.78/2} 26. Qg5+ {
>(Dg5+ fxg5) M2/2} 26... fxg5 {(fxg5 Lxg5+) -M3/2  Schwarz gibt auf} 1-0



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