Author: David Mitchell
Date: 18:38:15 07/10/04
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On July 10, 2004 at 03:42:33, Dan Honeycutt wrote: >On July 10, 2004 at 01:07:25, David Mitchell wrote: > >>On July 09, 2004 at 19:10:43, mike tubbs wrote: >> >>>This program seems to be everyone's punching bag, i wonder if it is even >>>2200elo? >> >>This is movei's first entrance into WCCC, and it is very much still being >>refined and enriched by it's author, Uri. >> >>Being a first program, and a one-person project, it isn't surprising that the >>more experienced programs (like Crafty), and the commercial programs (like >>Fritz, Junior & Shredder, etc.), which have spent thousands of hours developing >>and improving their program, are usually able to beat it. >> >>The real question is how has Uri managed to find the time and the programming >>ability, to develop movei into the program it has become, so far? >> >>Uri will have learned a lot by competing in the WCCC, had an adventure, and have >>lots of idea's for further improvements, for later versions. >> >>We, of course, will be the beneficiaries of all that, since movei is free to >>download! >> >>And while it's elo may not set your bells ringing, i think it's great than an >>amateur program can win even one game in a world championship match. >> >>dave > > >Dave it may be that I misread your post, if so I apologize. But you seem to say >"Movei may not be that good but that's no reason to come down on Uri". > >First, I have no problem with coming down on Uri. I'm on his case a dozen >threads down the page for his preparation for the WCCC. I'd be the last to say >that Uri is not a rather strange bird. But when I see disparaging remarks about >Uri or Movei, I'm ready to jump in to the fray in a heartbeat. > >I did some testing for Uri when he was trying to settle on the version to use >for Leo's Div 2 tournament. I watched Movei play and I was impressed. It >promoted to Div 1 where it now sits in 3rd place. As I said elsewhere in this >thread, I use it regularly in my tests. It is flat a strong engine. > >But don't take my word for it. Download it and play it yourself. Post your >games here so we can all help poor Uri improve his engine. > >Dan H. If someone wants to post that movei is not as strong as program "X" (whatever), that's fine. But I took some exception to Mike Tubbs snide way of stating, or asking, that question. Perhaps Mike is more accustomed to rgcc, or other unmoderated forums. However "odd" you may believe someone is, those remarks can be centered within polite conversation with a little effort, and should be on CCC. Uri may be an odd (I have no idea) bird, but he's definitely one of *our* (maybe odd, maybe not), birds. Those who want to post up about him, should bring some measure of civility or visit elsewhere on the net.imo Dave Dave
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