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Subject: Re: A new Swedish list is out.

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 17:37:17 12/25/98

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On December 25, 1998 at 10:23:21, blass uri wrote:

>
>On December 25, 1998 at 09:27:41, Bert Seifriz wrote:
>
>>THE SSDF RATING LIST 1998-12-24 63528 games played by 186 computers
>>
>>                                             Rating + - Games Won Oppo
>>
>>                                            ------ --- --- ----- --- ----
>>
>>1 Fritz 5.0 PB30% 67MB P200 MMX               2566 25 -24 906 68% 2431
>>2 Junior 5.0 64MB P200 MMX                    2556 33 -31 502 67% 2435
>>3 Nimzo 98 56MB P200 MMX                      2526 25 -24 812 61% 2450
>>4 Rebel 9.0 45MB P200 MMX                     2524 25 -25 802 63% 2432
>>5 Hiarcs 6.0 46MB P200 MMX                    2523 26 -26 720 58% 2464
>>6 MChess Pro 7.1 38MB P200 MMX                2512 27 -26 714 59% 2447
>>7 Rebel 8.0 45MB P200 MMX                     2507 32 -31 493 59% 2440
>>8 MChess Pro 6.0 40MB P200 MMX                2505 29 -28 599 58% 2449
>>9 Shredder 2.0 56MB P200 MMX                  2502 27 -27 679 57% 2453
>>10 Genius 5.0 DOS 41MB P200 MMX               2496 25 -25 788 58% 2438
>>11 MChess Pro 8.0 64MB P200 MMX               2482 35 -34 414 57% 2434
>>12 Gandalf 3.0 64MB P200 MMX                  2467 41 -40 307 59% 2399
>>13 Kallisto II 64MB P200 MMX                  2445 35 -35 398 52% 2429
>>14 Rebel 9.0 Pentium 90 MHz                   2442 27 -27 672 51% 2437
>>15 Rebel 8.0 Pentium 90 MHz                   2439 19 -19 1331 57% 2393
>>16 Hiarcs 6.0 Pentium 90 MHz                  2438 20 -20 1197 54% 2412
>>17 Hiarcs 5.0 Pentium 90 MHz                  2427 39 -38 343 61% 2351
>>
>>First 17! Bert/gambitsoft.com
>
>Where did you get the all list?
>
>I looked at the link in gambitsoft for the ssdf list and they tell me only the
>previous list.
>
>There are some strange results
>
>There is a big difference between the rating of Mchesspro8 in this list and in
>the selective search list.
>
>I also expected Junior5 to be number 1 in the list.
>
>It was not number 1 in the previous list only because of a mistake in the match
>against Rebel8(P90) when Junior5 was slower and they repeat 4 games and Junior5
>won Rebel8(P90) 14.5:5.5 instead of 12.5:7.5
>
>I saw here also good results for Junior5 (17.5:2.5 against against Fritz3(p90)
>should help Junior5 to be number 1)
>
>I did not see the games with bad results for Junior5.
>
>I want to see them to check if there was not a mistake of a tester in these
>games.
>
>Uri

Why don't you check to see if there are mistakes in other program's games?

What is in your opinion the bias introduced by the bug that prevents Junior's
opponents to save their games in Auto232 sessions?

I have an interesting log file that demonstrates this behaviour if you are
interested. In an Auto232 match, Tiger has been prevented to save its games most
of the time, and when it was allowed to do so it was always under the same file
name.

I have the same log file against the famous "Fritz5 with secret autoplayer".

A lot of fun to walk thru these log files.


    Christophe



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