Author: blass uri
Date: 23:31:31 12/25/98
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On December 25, 1998 at 20:37:17, Christophe Theron wrote: >On December 25, 1998 at 10:23:21, blass uri wrote: > >> >>On December 25, 1998 at 09:27:41, Bert Seifriz wrote: >> >>>THE SSDF RATING LIST 1998-12-24 63528 games played by 186 computers >>> >>> Rating + - Games Won Oppo >>> >>> ------ --- --- ----- --- ---- >>> >>>1 Fritz 5.0 PB30% 67MB P200 MMX 2566 25 -24 906 68% 2431 >>>2 Junior 5.0 64MB P200 MMX 2556 33 -31 502 67% 2435 >>>3 Nimzo 98 56MB P200 MMX 2526 25 -24 812 61% 2450 >>>4 Rebel 9.0 45MB P200 MMX 2524 25 -25 802 63% 2432 >>>5 Hiarcs 6.0 46MB P200 MMX 2523 26 -26 720 58% 2464 >>>6 MChess Pro 7.1 38MB P200 MMX 2512 27 -26 714 59% 2447 >>>7 Rebel 8.0 45MB P200 MMX 2507 32 -31 493 59% 2440 >>>8 MChess Pro 6.0 40MB P200 MMX 2505 29 -28 599 58% 2449 >>>9 Shredder 2.0 56MB P200 MMX 2502 27 -27 679 57% 2453 >>>10 Genius 5.0 DOS 41MB P200 MMX 2496 25 -25 788 58% 2438 >>>11 MChess Pro 8.0 64MB P200 MMX 2482 35 -34 414 57% 2434 >>>12 Gandalf 3.0 64MB P200 MMX 2467 41 -40 307 59% 2399 >>>13 Kallisto II 64MB P200 MMX 2445 35 -35 398 52% 2429 >>>14 Rebel 9.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2442 27 -27 672 51% 2437 >>>15 Rebel 8.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2439 19 -19 1331 57% 2393 >>>16 Hiarcs 6.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2438 20 -20 1197 54% 2412 >>>17 Hiarcs 5.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2427 39 -38 343 61% 2351 >>> >>>First 17! Bert/gambitsoft.com >> >>Where did you get the all list? >> >>I looked at the link in gambitsoft for the ssdf list and they tell me only the >>previous list. >> >>There are some strange results >> >>There is a big difference between the rating of Mchesspro8 in this list and in >>the selective search list. >> >>I also expected Junior5 to be number 1 in the list. >> >>It was not number 1 in the previous list only because of a mistake in the match >>against Rebel8(P90) when Junior5 was slower and they repeat 4 games and Junior5 >>won Rebel8(P90) 14.5:5.5 instead of 12.5:7.5 >> >>I saw here also good results for Junior5 (17.5:2.5 against against Fritz3(p90) >>should help Junior5 to be number 1) >> >>I did not see the games with bad results for Junior5. >> >>I want to see them to check if there was not a mistake of a tester in these >>games. >> >>Uri > >Why don't you check to see if there are mistakes in other program's games? I expected better results from Junior5 and it is not the case for other programs. My expectation are based on the results that were posted here. I also want Junior5 to be number 1 but I believe that this fact did not influence my expectations. I admit that probably there are better programs(at least one of chessmaster6000, hiarcs7, tiger11.7 and fritz5.32) but these programs are not in the ssdf list. > >What is in your opinion the bias introduced by the bug that prevents Junior's >opponents to save their games in Auto232 sessions? I know that this bug did not help Junior5 against fritz3 because fritz3 is not a program with learning feature and Junior5 should earn rating from this match. I also found another bug in one game of Junior5 against fritz3 that did not help Junior5. Junior5 told the tester that it lost on time. Junior5 also gave the times for every move I computed the sum of the times for Junior5 and Fritz3 and found that Fritz3 lost on time if you believe the times of Junior5. The ssdf guys decided to continue the games from the position that one side lost on time and Fritz3 won but I do not know what is the truth and which side lost on time. > >I have an interesting log file that demonstrates this behaviour if you are >interested. In an Auto232 match, Tiger has been prevented to save its games most >of the time, and when it was allowed to do so it was always under the same file >name. > >I have the same log file against the famous "Fritz5 with secret autoplayer". > >A lot of fun to walk thru these log files. Did you send these logfiles to chessbase and Amir Ban? Did you get a response about it? Uri
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