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Subject: Re: RK 2004 (90m+30s) Final standing / Comparison with CM9 T05

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 16:38:18 07/12/04

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On July 12, 2004 at 18:35:28, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On July 12, 2004 at 17:41:52, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On July 12, 2004 at 17:27:03, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On July 12, 2004 at 16:41:44, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>Detailed report and games at http://www.utzingerk.com/rk_2004_english.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Final standing of the original tourney
>>>>Endstand des Originalturniers
>>>>    Program                            Score     %    Av.Op.  Elo    +   -
>>>>
>>>>  1 Shredder 8                     :  78.5/140  56.1   2495   2537   54  43
>>>>  2 Junior 8                       :  76.5/140  54.6   2496   2528   55  44
>>>>  3 Hiarcs 9                       :  75.5/140  53.9   2497   2524   56  43
>>>>  4 Fritz 8                        :  74.5/140  53.2   2497   2520   56  37
>>>>  5 CM9 T06                        :  71.0/140  50.7   2500   2504   59  40
>>>>  6 Ruffian 2.1.0                  :  67.5/140  48.2   2502   2489   40  58
>>>>  7 List 513                       :  63.0/140  45.0   2504   2470   36  55
>>>>  8 Aristarch 4.41                 :  53.5/140  38.2   2511   2427   50  50
>>>>
>>>> (Generated with EloStat of Dr. Frank Schubert, start Elo 2500)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Final standing with CM9 T05 settings
>>>>Endstand Alternativ-Turnier mit CM9 T05 Setting
>>>>    Program                            Score     %    Av.Op.  Elo    +   -
>>>>
>>>>  1 CM9 T05                        :  88.5/140  63.2   2488   2582   49  47
>>>>  2 Shredder 8                     :  78.0/140  55.7   2495   2535   54  42
>>>>  3 Junior 8                       :  76.5/140  54.6   2496   2528   55  45
>>>>  4 Hiarcs 9                       :  73.5/140  52.5   2498   2515   57  42
>>>>  5 Fritz 8                        :  71.0/140  50.7   2499   2504   59  37
>>>>  6 Ruffian 2.1.0                  :  62.0/140  44.3   2505   2465   42  54
>>>>  7 List 513                       :  60.5/140  43.2   2506   2459   36  53
>>>>  8 Aristarch 4.41                 :  50.0/140  35.7   2513   2411   52  48
>>>
>>>You should definitely call Johan de Koning's attention to your CM9_05 settings.
>>>This is a very amazing result, and with enough data to show a strong
>>>correlation.
>>>
>>>  Program         Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
>>>1 CM9 T05       : 2688   49  47   140    63.2 %   2594   36.4 %
>>>2 Shredder 8    : 2636   38  30   280    55.9 %   2595   37.5 %
>>>3 Junior 8      : 2628   39  31   280    54.6 %   2596   32.9 %
>>>4 Hiarcs 9      : 2620   40  30   280    53.2 %   2597   35.0 %
>>>5 Fritz 8       : 2612   40  26   280    52.0 %   2598   45.4 %
>>>6 CM9 T06       : 2599   59  40   140    50.7 %   2594   37.1 %
>>>7 Ruffian 2.1.0 : 2577   29  39   280    46.2 %   2603   38.9 %
>>>8 List 513      : 2564   25  38   280    44.1 %   2605   48.9 %
>>>9 Aristarch 4.41: 2519   36  34   280    37.0 %   2612   31.1 %
>>
>>Just noticed that the T05 settings are practically identical to the SKR
>>settings. The one and only difference is that Attack/Defend value is -1 in SKR
>>and 0 in T05 (in a range of -100 to +100, where negative numbers favor attack).
>>
>>jm
>
>
>     Hi John
>     You are right and we are indeed wondering why such
>     a small difference can have such a great influence.

It could be an aberration, of course.  However, with such a large nuber of
games, I am expecting an I/O bug of some kind when reading that parameter.



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