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Subject: Re: FRITZ is the free-floating Joker of ChessBase (Reflections about Mar

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 05:37:49 07/13/04

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On July 13, 2004 at 08:08:59, Joachim Rang wrote:

>On July 13, 2004 at 07:18:20, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On July 13, 2004 at 06:12:47, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>On July 13, 2004 at 04:12:12, CLiebert wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 12, 2004 at 20:47:57, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 12, 2004 at 15:52:37, Andreas Schwartmann wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 12, 2004 at 10:32:36, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, and... German: und Fritz benötigt einfach bessere Tester, dann kann er es
>>>>>>>wieder schaffen!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Aber bitte nicht Dich. Gott bewahre!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>a) Bitte nicht persönlich hier werden, sonst habe auch ich etwas in der Tasche
>>>>>was ich über dich erzählen könnte!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Andreas hat doch gar nichts über Dich erzählt, siehst Du Gespenster? Was soll
>>>>diese Drohung die unterschwellig unterstellt das Andi Leichen im Keller hätte
>>>>(von denen DU weißt?!). Absurd.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>b)Warum "Gott bewahre"? Es könnte eigentlich NUR besser werden !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nur besser? Fritz ist das weltweit meistverkaufte Schachprogramm (neben CM?) und
>>>>Du sagst es kann nur besser werden?! Absurd.
>>>>
>>>>>>Andreas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                         *******************
>>>
>>>Just to make clear to the English speaking members in CCC what is spoken in
>>>German.
>>>
>>>Eduard Nemeth was the topic in several threads in CCC and it always went about
>>>his extremely successful play against our top computerchess programs. Eduard
>>>just has or had Elo of 2150 (maximum) but his chess knowledge is good enough -
>>>and this is now the new discovery, although real experts knew it since long -
>>>that Eduard can't win real matches against top progs BUT if he has discovered a
>>>mistake in the books, or a "bug" in a typically wrong opening reaction then he
>>>can win _games_ with long-time known s acrifices or typical variations. Since
>>>Eduard makes these games public the programmers weren't lazy and prevented
>>>especially these typical Eduard exploitations. -
>>>
>>>To the honor of Eduard I must add, that he's no way reducable on these "games".
>>>Eduard has created several endgame positions - often for FRITZ - where he could
>>>show that a veritable bug in the engine (book plays no role here at all) led to
>>>a ridiculous behaviour! Because of the creation and publication of such
>>>positions - now hold yourself safe on a chair - Eduard wasn't proclaimed
>>>'smartest' and most creative tester or such something but he was banned from
>>>German newsgroups to protect the good name of FRITZ. To make this quite clear.
>>>The failures of their program FRITZ brought a company into opposition to a
>>>tester who should normally be proclaimed 'best tester of FRITZ' because he could
>>>show weaknesses or bugs that simply looked really odd.
>>>
>>>                              ++++++++++++
>>
>>I do not know the reason that Eduard was banned but I find it hard to believe
>>that he was banned for the fact that he detected bugs in Fritz.
>>
>>I also find it hard to believe that he was banned for the fact that he told the
>>world(and not only to chessbase) about the weaknesses that he found but this
>>explanation is more logical.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>You should know that Rolf Tueschen has his own (uncommon) view on reality and
>that in fact most people would not share his view that Eduard was banned because
>he pointed out weaknesses in Fritz. In fact it was due to his lack of tolerable
>behaviour in a specific board (computerschach.de/forum).
>
>regards Joachim


If you knew that your assumptions about reality are also but views you would
laugh about yourself and you would be ashamed that you again defamate Eduard.
Since when are human weaknesses intolerable, and above all in a chess community?
Have you something learned apart from chess? About Human Charity? I doubt it.



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