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Subject: Re: I recommend two group of winners for next year !

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 11:16:54 07/13/04

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On July 13, 2004 at 14:03:14, Sean Empey wrote:

>On July 13, 2004 at 13:40:37, steven blincoe wrote:
>
>>>Hardware is part of the program.
>>How would you test the strength of dedicated units when their hardware veries so
>>much?
>>
>>its true to some extent..sometimes i test computers with different hardware but
>>the resluts will generally always be true to the hardware
>>
>>the stronger the hardware used in a dedicated unit ,then the more powerful the
>>rating
>>
>>there will be no computer running on a Motoroloa 68000 32 bit  processor that
>>could lose to a computer running on an 1806 processor
>>no matter how powerful the code for the chess program
>>
>>
>>but every year it seems we have the same resulting discussions for the WCCC...
>>this program lost because it was not running on a dual operton..or   ..if we
>>used a qaud opteron we would have preformed better..etc.etc.
>>
>>Steve
>
>
>Yes, the discussions happen but they are IMHO, useless questions. Asking if
>Program A would run better on a quad is not reasonable if it is not a MP
>program, etc. I think people like to speculate how strong a certain program
>_might_ be, but their is a huge difference in MP implementations and pulling it
>off. If a program is not 64-bit then asking if it would have done better running
>on 64-bit architecture is also useless. Just my two cents.
>
>-Sean

The problem is not only hardware.
Some programs were compiled by inferior compilers.

Movei was compiled by Visual C++6 except the first round when I used a version
compiled by Dann Corbit but I found that there was a bug in time management with
ponder on and I also wanted to change other things during the tournament so I
used again a version that is compiled by Visual C++6 in the rest of the games.

I was surprised to hear that Woodpusher was even compiled only by Visual C++5
The programmer did not buy better compiler because it was too expensive for him.

I do not think that it is a fair advantage.

Uri



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