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Subject: Re: I recommend two group of winners for next year !

Author: Sean Empey

Date: 11:32:14 07/13/04

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On July 13, 2004 at 14:16:54, Uri Blass wrote:

>On July 13, 2004 at 14:03:14, Sean Empey wrote:
>
>>On July 13, 2004 at 13:40:37, steven blincoe wrote:
>>
>>>>Hardware is part of the program.
>>>How would you test the strength of dedicated units when their hardware veries so
>>>much?
>>>
>>>its true to some extent..sometimes i test computers with different hardware but
>>>the resluts will generally always be true to the hardware
>>>
>>>the stronger the hardware used in a dedicated unit ,then the more powerful the
>>>rating
>>>
>>>there will be no computer running on a Motoroloa 68000 32 bit  processor that
>>>could lose to a computer running on an 1806 processor
>>>no matter how powerful the code for the chess program
>>>
>>>
>>>but every year it seems we have the same resulting discussions for the WCCC...
>>>this program lost because it was not running on a dual operton..or   ..if we
>>>used a qaud opteron we would have preformed better..etc.etc.
>>>
>>>Steve
>>
>>
>>Yes, the discussions happen but they are IMHO, useless questions. Asking if
>>Program A would run better on a quad is not reasonable if it is not a MP
>>program, etc. I think people like to speculate how strong a certain program
>>_might_ be, but their is a huge difference in MP implementations and pulling it
>>off. If a program is not 64-bit then asking if it would have done better running
>>on 64-bit architecture is also useless. Just my two cents.
>>
>>-Sean
>
>The problem is not only hardware.
>Some programs were compiled by inferior compilers.
>
>Movei was compiled by Visual C++6 except the first round when I used a version
>compiled by Dann Corbit but I found that there was a bug in time management with
>ponder on and I also wanted to change other things during the tournament so I
>used again a version that is compiled by Visual C++6 in the rest of the games.
>
>I was surprised to hear that Woodpusher was even compiled only by Visual C++5
>The programmer did not buy better compiler because it was too expensive for him.
>
>I do not think that it is a fair advantage.
>
>Uri


So now people should be forced to compile in a specified compiler? It seems to
me people are trying to cripple other's programs so that those programs that
aren't as strong still have a chance to win. How is that fair? I don't see how
handicapping everything is fair.



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