Author: Matthew Hull
Date: 11:51:35 07/13/04
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On July 13, 2004 at 14:24:42, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >On July 13, 2004 at 13:22:04, steven blincoe wrote: > >>> >>>To avoid any further disadvantage for the single processor programs, I recommend >>>two group of winners for next year! >>> >>> >>>Trophies for the SMP programs And for the single processor programs >>> First group Second group >>> >>> 1st Deep Junior 1st Jonny >>> 2nd Shredder 2nd Falcon >>> 3rd Diep 3rd IsiChess >> >> >>it seems to me that common sense would dictate that the hardware to be used is >>uniform for all entrants >> >> >>even if this means certain progs cannot be entered > >I think the best would be to switch to the old WCCC and WMCCC formats of two >events. WMCCC taking place annually, and WCCC once every few years. The WMCCC >hardware rule could be very simple: every participant has to run on the machines >provided by the organization, as Stefan Meyer-Kahlen suggested. > >If this year's event was held with uniform hardware, most probably Junior and >Shredder would have still finished in the top two positions. But everything >could have happened for other programs. For example, on equal hardware Falcon >would have certainly won that game against Crafty, and most probably also the >game against Diep (or at least would draw that game), which would have resulted >in ending in the 3rd place. > >Speaking for myself, I will almost certainly participate with a parallel system >next year. Otherwise I would simply not join. Playing against programs running >on hardware at least four times faster than yours, borders on masochism. It is >like running on equal hardware with one side having 2 hours for 60 moves, and >the other having 8 hours for the same number of moves. Computer chess is about a basic question of intellectual curiosity. Limiting hardware in the quest for the answer is mind-numbingly wrong. The "contest" is fun, but not it's not ultimately about equipment or algorithms. It's about the answer to the basic question of the problem of chess. All this talk about uniform hardware just fails on so many levels, and changes the subject of what computer chess is all about. Think about it. The championship used to played on nothing but big hardware, and now that cheap little hardware is ubiquitous, you want to limit it to little hardware. That is just utterly ridiculous. > > >> >>otherwise we are comparing apples witn oranges >> >> >>in an effort to include programs not written to run on standard computers,we >>wind up with results heavily impacted by the different hardware being used >> >> >>its as if the cure is worse then the disease >> >>Steve
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