Author: Uri Blass
Date: 11:54:17 07/13/04
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On July 13, 2004 at 14:32:14, Sean Empey wrote: >On July 13, 2004 at 14:16:54, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On July 13, 2004 at 14:03:14, Sean Empey wrote: >> >>>On July 13, 2004 at 13:40:37, steven blincoe wrote: >>> >>>>>Hardware is part of the program. >>>>How would you test the strength of dedicated units when their hardware veries so >>>>much? >>>> >>>>its true to some extent..sometimes i test computers with different hardware but >>>>the resluts will generally always be true to the hardware >>>> >>>>the stronger the hardware used in a dedicated unit ,then the more powerful the >>>>rating >>>> >>>>there will be no computer running on a Motoroloa 68000 32 bit processor that >>>>could lose to a computer running on an 1806 processor >>>>no matter how powerful the code for the chess program >>>> >>>> >>>>but every year it seems we have the same resulting discussions for the WCCC... >>>>this program lost because it was not running on a dual operton..or ..if we >>>>used a qaud opteron we would have preformed better..etc.etc. >>>> >>>>Steve >>> >>> >>>Yes, the discussions happen but they are IMHO, useless questions. Asking if >>>Program A would run better on a quad is not reasonable if it is not a MP >>>program, etc. I think people like to speculate how strong a certain program >>>_might_ be, but their is a huge difference in MP implementations and pulling it >>>off. If a program is not 64-bit then asking if it would have done better running >>>on 64-bit architecture is also useless. Just my two cents. >>> >>>-Sean >> >>The problem is not only hardware. >>Some programs were compiled by inferior compilers. >> >>Movei was compiled by Visual C++6 except the first round when I used a version >>compiled by Dann Corbit but I found that there was a bug in time management with >>ponder on and I also wanted to change other things during the tournament so I >>used again a version that is compiled by Visual C++6 in the rest of the games. >> >>I was surprised to hear that Woodpusher was even compiled only by Visual C++5 >>The programmer did not buy better compiler because it was too expensive for him. >> >>I do not think that it is a fair advantage. >> >>Uri > > >So now people should be forced to compile in a specified compiler? It seems to >me people are trying to cripple other's programs so that those programs that >aren't as strong still have a chance to win. How is that fair? I don't see how >handicapping everything is fair. I do not think that handicapping other is fair. I think that the most fair situation is that the sponsor also gives the participants the best compiler to compile their program. Teaching a program to use a parallel search is a lot of programming effort but compiling with a better compiler should not be a lot of effort Uri
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