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Subject: Re: Shredder with white draws 2323 player in Argentina

Author: mike tubbs

Date: 00:40:28 07/15/04

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On July 15, 2004 at 03:27:43, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On July 15, 2004 at 02:42:15, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On July 15, 2004 at 02:18:12, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>[Event "ITT Copa CMSalud"]
>>>[Site "Vicente Lopez"]
>>>[Date "2004.07.09"]
>>>[Round "1"]
>>>[White "Shredder 8, COMP."]
>>>[Black "Valiente, Cristobal"]
>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>[BlackElo "2323"]
>>>[PlyCount "118"]
>>>[EventDate "2004.07.09"]
>>>[SourceDate "2004.07.08"]
>>>
>>>1. e4 d6 2. d4 g6 3. Nf3 Bg7 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Bf4 Nc6 6. Qd2 Bg4 7. O-O-O O-O 8.
>>>d5 Ne5 9. Be2 Bxf3 10. gxf3 c6 11. Kb1 cxd5 12. Nxd5 Nxd5 13. Qxd5 Qb6 14. Be3
>>>Qc7 15. Bd4 Rac8 16. c3 a6 17. f4 e6 18. Qb3 Nd7 19. Bxg7 Kxg7 20. f5 Nc5 21.
>>>Qc2 Rcd8 22. h4 Qc6 23. f3 d5 24. fxg6 fxg6 25. h5 dxe4 26. hxg6 hxg6 27. Rxd8
>>>Rxd8 28. Qc1 Rh8 29. Rxh8 Kxh8 30. Qh6+ Kg8 31. Qxg6+ Kf8 32. b4 Na4 33. Qf6+
>>>Ke8 34. Kc2 b5 35. Kb3 exf3 36. Qxf3 Qd5+ 37. Qxd5 exd5 38. Kc2 Ke7 39. Kd3 Kd6
>>>40. Bg4 Nb6 41. Kd4 Kc6 42. Bf3 Kd6 43. Bh1 Na4 44. Bg2 Nb6 45. Bf3 Na4 46. Bh5
>>>Nb6 47. Bf3 Na4 48. Bg2 Nb6 49. Bh3 Kc6 50. Bf1 Kd6 51. Bh3 Kc6 52. Be6 Kd6 53.
>>>Bf7 Na4 54. Bg6 Nb6 55. Bf5 Kc6 56. Be6 Kd6 57. Bf7 Na4 58. Bh5 Nb6 59. Be8 Na4
>>>1/2-1/2
>>>
>>>Is white really 2800 player?
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>I always said that the SSDF should drop its rating by at least 200 points to
>>make it more realistic in comparison to human, specially being tested with a
>>mere 1200 MHz computer.
>>
>>Jorge
>
>     Hi Jorge
>     I fully agree with your statement. On the other hand:
>     why should a 2323 Elo player be unable to get a draw?
>     This is sometimes even possible for me with 1970 Elo.
>     If I find the time I shall comment the Argentina games
>     to show where humans did use the wrong strategy vs
>     the computer program Shredder.
>     Kurt


 I agree Kurt, being a 2323 elo player doesn't mean that you never can have a
2800 level game, it just means that you cannot consistently perform at the 2800
level. I've seen 2300 uscf players roll 2600 rated grandmasters so drawing
shouldn't be to difficult, I'm sure that Shredder is not a 2800 level program, i
think 2680 is more reasonable.



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