Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 08:07:26 07/15/04
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On July 15, 2004 at 05:11:21, Uri Blass wrote: >On July 14, 2004 at 22:05:25, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On July 14, 2004 at 14:40:17, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >> >>>On July 14, 2004 at 14:17:33, Matthew Hull wrote: >>> >>>>On July 14, 2004 at 13:00:15, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>The goal is the best computer chess. You can't have that unless it's open >>>>>>hardware. It has always been open hardware, >>>>> >>>>>You forget WMCCC. >>>> >>>> >>>>No I don't. This is not WMCCC. It's WCCC. The best chess will be played on >>>>big hardware. That's why it's open hardware. >>>> >>>>If you want to argue for inferior chess, then go organize thw World Inferior >>>>Computer Chess Championship. >>>> >>>>Meanwhile, the rest of us want to see the best computer chess the world has to >>>>offer. We want to see the envelope pushed as far as it can go. >>>> >>>> >>>>The best computer chess in the world is supposed to be seen at the World >>>>Championship. You can't do that by limiting hardware. >>>> >>>>I don't know how many different ways it needs to be said. Your idea is fine >>>>for some other event that is not the WCCC. >>> >>>I did not suggest to abolish the open hardware format to begin with. What I >>>suggest is to hold two events, WCCC for open hardware, and WMCCC for uniform >>>hardware. Just the way it used to be. In WCCC you will find the best >>>engine+hardware combination, and in WMCCC you will find the strongest chess >>>program. >>> >> >> >>Absolutely and totally bogus statement. >> >>What processor will you pick? I want 64 bits. Others want 32 bits. > > >The best solution is to give the participants the possibility to choose the >hardware when the participants do not need to care to bring the hardware that >they choose and the organizers do it for them. > >If we talk about WMCCC then a better alternative than uniform hardware is that >programmers will be able to ask the organizers to give them every machine that >they ask(behind some price) with only one codition that the machine does not >have more than one cpu. In 2 years you won't be able to do this. Many single-chip systems will have two real CPU cores on-chip. IE hyper-threading is a precursor to this. What will you do when _all_ machines have duals or quads on chip? > > >Uri
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