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Subject: Re: Shredder with white draws 2323 player in Argentina

Author: odell jones

Date: 08:29:39 07/15/04

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On July 15, 2004 at 08:53:04, Albert Silver wrote:

>On July 15, 2004 at 03:40:28, mike tubbs wrote:
>
>>On July 15, 2004 at 03:27:43, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>On July 15, 2004 at 02:42:15, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 15, 2004 at 02:18:12, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>[Event "ITT Copa CMSalud"]
>>>>>[Site "Vicente Lopez"]
>>>>>[Date "2004.07.09"]
>>>>>[Round "1"]
>>>>>[White "Shredder 8, COMP."]
>>>>>[Black "Valiente, Cristobal"]
>>>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>>>[BlackElo "2323"]
>>>>>[PlyCount "118"]
>>>>>[EventDate "2004.07.09"]
>>>>>[SourceDate "2004.07.08"]
>>>>>
>>>>>1. e4 d6 2. d4 g6 3. Nf3 Bg7 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Bf4 Nc6 6. Qd2 Bg4 7. O-O-O O-O 8.
>>>>>d5 Ne5 9. Be2 Bxf3 10. gxf3 c6 11. Kb1 cxd5 12. Nxd5 Nxd5 13. Qxd5 Qb6 14. Be3
>>>>>Qc7 15. Bd4 Rac8 16. c3 a6 17. f4 e6 18. Qb3 Nd7 19. Bxg7 Kxg7 20. f5 Nc5 21.
>>>>>Qc2 Rcd8 22. h4 Qc6 23. f3 d5 24. fxg6 fxg6 25. h5 dxe4 26. hxg6 hxg6 27. Rxd8
>>>>>Rxd8 28. Qc1 Rh8 29. Rxh8 Kxh8 30. Qh6+ Kg8 31. Qxg6+ Kf8 32. b4 Na4 33. Qf6+
>>>>>Ke8 34. Kc2 b5 35. Kb3 exf3 36. Qxf3 Qd5+ 37. Qxd5 exd5 38. Kc2 Ke7 39. Kd3 Kd6
>>>>>40. Bg4 Nb6 41. Kd4 Kc6 42. Bf3 Kd6 43. Bh1 Na4 44. Bg2 Nb6 45. Bf3 Na4 46. Bh5
>>>>>Nb6 47. Bf3 Na4 48. Bg2 Nb6 49. Bh3 Kc6 50. Bf1 Kd6 51. Bh3 Kc6 52. Be6 Kd6 53.
>>>>>Bf7 Na4 54. Bg6 Nb6 55. Bf5 Kc6 56. Be6 Kd6 57. Bf7 Na4 58. Bh5 Nb6 59. Be8 Na4
>>>>>1/2-1/2
>>>>>
>>>>>Is white really 2800 player?
>>>>>
>>>>>Jouni
>>>>
>>>>I always said that the SSDF should drop its rating by at least 200 points to
>>>>make it more realistic in comparison to human, specially being tested with a
>>>>mere 1200 MHz computer.
>>>>
>>>>Jorge
>>>
>>>     Hi Jorge
>>>     I fully agree with your statement. On the other hand:
>>>     why should a 2323 Elo player be unable to get a draw?
>>>     This is sometimes even possible for me with 1970 Elo.
>>>     If I find the time I shall comment the Argentina games
>>>     to show where humans did use the wrong strategy vs
>>>     the computer program Shredder.
>>>     Kurt
>>
>>
>> I agree Kurt, being a 2323 elo player doesn't mean that you never can have a
>>2800 level game, it just means that you cannot consistently perform at the 2800
>>level. I've seen 2300 uscf players roll 2600 rated grandmasters so drawing
>>shouldn't be to difficult, I'm sure that Shredder is not a 2800 level program, i
>>think 2680 is more reasonable.
>
>
>Why 2680? Is that the current TPR in the second tournament where it has 4 in 5
>according to today's CB report?



  No, I should have said High 2600's.
>
>                                         Albert



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