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Subject: Re: Computer Chess Worldwide

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 12:42:33 07/15/04

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On July 15, 2004 at 15:36:47, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On July 15, 2004 at 13:21:48, Martin Slowik wrote:
>
>>Whoops,
>>
>>lucky me mentioned the name Ed Schroeder only together with the adjective
>>'talented'... ;-) Didn't know that you're still around, still being interested
>>in computer chess.
>
>Being retired from competion and commerce doesn't mean my interest has gone
>away.
>
>
>>Since I have you here now, if you allow I'd have a question that is nagging me
>>(and some other folks who are still playing dedicated chess computers).
>>Hopefully you remember the times of the Risc I and II modules for the Mephistos
>>roughly... Is there a big difference between the two, i.e. do you remember what
>>you changed or to what exent in the later program version? There are people
>>thinking that the first version is even stronger than the second, do you believe
>>this is possible?
>
>The Risc-II is 40-50 elo points stronger. I still know it because the difference
>was just one instruction.
>
>
>
>>>The USCF has about 50,000-60,000 paying members which is quite low if you
>>>compare that to pinhead Holland which has about 30,000.
>>
>>Well, I intentionally didn't mention Fischer and the popularity of chess in the
>>US, since I think that this is alomst an exception to the 'Becker-effect'. Okay,
>>in the first years Bobby did attract many people but I think the effect would
>>have been bigger or have lasted longer in almost any other country. Perhaps this
>>is due to the cultural differences between Europe and America: if you can't earn
>>a lot of money with a sport/game it gets dropped very quickly by the people
>>(even though Fischer changed the salaries of the pros in a very significant way
>>- alas it's not comparable to the salaries of basketball players).  ;-)
>>
>>>>in Holland the answer must be related to Euwe...
>>>
>>>Obviously. But chess was already quite popular here.
>>
>>Yes, and I think even the extent nowadays is astonishing.
>
>>But what I don't get is the lack of russian chess engine programmers. They have
>>both, excellent chess players and very good programmers - but so far no top
>>engine if I'm not mistaken.
>
>I agree, the lack off Russian chess programmers is unexplainable.

Does several percent of code in majority of strong chess engines count as at
least one engine? :-)

Thanks,
Eugene


>My best,
>
>Ed



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