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Subject: Re: Computer Chess Worldwide

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 12:59:50 07/15/04

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On July 15, 2004 at 15:42:33, Eugene Nalimov wrote:

>On July 15, 2004 at 15:36:47, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>On July 15, 2004 at 13:21:48, Martin Slowik wrote:
>>
>>>Whoops,
>>>
>>>lucky me mentioned the name Ed Schroeder only together with the adjective
>>>'talented'... ;-) Didn't know that you're still around, still being interested
>>>in computer chess.
>>
>>Being retired from competion and commerce doesn't mean my interest has gone
>>away.
>>
>>
>>>Since I have you here now, if you allow I'd have a question that is nagging me
>>>(and some other folks who are still playing dedicated chess computers).
>>>Hopefully you remember the times of the Risc I and II modules for the Mephistos
>>>roughly... Is there a big difference between the two, i.e. do you remember what
>>>you changed or to what exent in the later program version? There are people
>>>thinking that the first version is even stronger than the second, do you believe
>>>this is possible?
>>
>>The Risc-II is 40-50 elo points stronger. I still know it because the difference
>>was just one instruction.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>The USCF has about 50,000-60,000 paying members which is quite low if you
>>>>compare that to pinhead Holland which has about 30,000.
>>>
>>>Well, I intentionally didn't mention Fischer and the popularity of chess in the
>>>US, since I think that this is alomst an exception to the 'Becker-effect'. Okay,
>>>in the first years Bobby did attract many people but I think the effect would
>>>have been bigger or have lasted longer in almost any other country. Perhaps this
>>>is due to the cultural differences between Europe and America: if you can't earn
>>>a lot of money with a sport/game it gets dropped very quickly by the people
>>>(even though Fischer changed the salaries of the pros in a very significant way
>>>- alas it's not comparable to the salaries of basketball players).  ;-)
>>>
>>>>>in Holland the answer must be related to Euwe...
>>>>
>>>>Obviously. But chess was already quite popular here.
>>>
>>>Yes, and I think even the extent nowadays is astonishing.
>>
>>>But what I don't get is the lack of russian chess engine programmers. They have
>>>both, excellent chess players and very good programmers - but so far no top
>>>engine if I'm not mistaken.
>>
>>I agree, the lack off Russian chess programmers is unexplainable.

>Does several percent of code in majority of strong chess engines count as at
>least one engine? :-)

Really Eugene, I did not know you are of Russian descent.

But the answer to your question is still "Njet" :-)

My best,

Ed



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