Author: Peter Berger
Date: 15:03:08 07/15/04
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On July 15, 2004 at 15:59:50, Ed Schröder wrote: >On July 15, 2004 at 15:42:33, Eugene Nalimov wrote: > >>On July 15, 2004 at 15:36:47, Ed Schröder wrote: >> >>>On July 15, 2004 at 13:21:48, Martin Slowik wrote: >>> >>>>Whoops, >>>> >>>>lucky me mentioned the name Ed Schroeder only together with the adjective >>>>'talented'... ;-) Didn't know that you're still around, still being interested >>>>in computer chess. >>> >>>Being retired from competion and commerce doesn't mean my interest has gone >>>away. >>> >>> >>>>Since I have you here now, if you allow I'd have a question that is nagging me >>>>(and some other folks who are still playing dedicated chess computers). >>>>Hopefully you remember the times of the Risc I and II modules for the Mephistos >>>>roughly... Is there a big difference between the two, i.e. do you remember what >>>>you changed or to what exent in the later program version? There are people >>>>thinking that the first version is even stronger than the second, do you believe >>>>this is possible? >>> >>>The Risc-II is 40-50 elo points stronger. I still know it because the difference >>>was just one instruction. >>> >>> >>> >>>>>The USCF has about 50,000-60,000 paying members which is quite low if you >>>>>compare that to pinhead Holland which has about 30,000. >>>> >>>>Well, I intentionally didn't mention Fischer and the popularity of chess in the >>>>US, since I think that this is alomst an exception to the 'Becker-effect'. Okay, >>>>in the first years Bobby did attract many people but I think the effect would >>>>have been bigger or have lasted longer in almost any other country. Perhaps this >>>>is due to the cultural differences between Europe and America: if you can't earn >>>>a lot of money with a sport/game it gets dropped very quickly by the people >>>>(even though Fischer changed the salaries of the pros in a very significant way >>>>- alas it's not comparable to the salaries of basketball players). ;-) >>>> >>>>>>in Holland the answer must be related to Euwe... >>>>> >>>>>Obviously. But chess was already quite popular here. >>>> >>>>Yes, and I think even the extent nowadays is astonishing. >>> >>>>But what I don't get is the lack of russian chess engine programmers. They have >>>>both, excellent chess players and very good programmers - but so far no top >>>>engine if I'm not mistaken. >>> >>>I agree, the lack off Russian chess programmers is unexplainable. > >>Does several percent of code in majority of strong chess engines count as at >>least one engine? :-) > >Really Eugene, I did not know you are of Russian descent. > >But the answer to your question is still "Njet" :-) > >My best, > >Ed Didn't Eugene also write Mirage? That was a very decent free engine at its time. How about SmarThink? Thought it was Russian too. Peter
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