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Subject: Re: Maybe a test position - Crafty-Shredder

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:01:51 07/16/04

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On July 16, 2004 at 02:20:48, Ingo Bauer wrote:

>On July 15, 2004 at 18:05:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On July 15, 2004 at 15:51:34, Ingo Bauer wrote:
>>
>>>On July 15, 2004 at 15:33:10, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 15, 2004 at 15:13:18, Ingo Bauer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hello
>>>>>
>>>>>Just 4 those who are interested. In a long game between Crafty and Shredder the
>>>>>following position occurs:
>>>>>
>>>>>[D]8/8/p4k2/1p5p/1PpK2P1/P6P/8/8 w - -
>>>>>
>>>>>For some strange reason Crafty decided to play gxh5 at move 58 which is a
>>>>>loosing move. As far as I know this was considered a bug and is removed in the
>>>>>latest Crafty release.
>>>>>
>>>>>and here is the whole game (Eval/time/expected move by S8), if I can remember it
>>>>>correctly the time control was 60 move is 105min and 25 min for the remaining
>>>>>game (WCCC time control minus some operator time)
>>>>>
>>>>>[Event "WCCC-preparation"]
>>>>>[Site "Ingos Home"]
>>>>>[Date "2004.06.27"]
>>>>>[Round "1"]
>>>>>[White "Crafty 19.14 4*Opteron"]
>>>>>[Black "Shredder8 XP@2500"]
>>>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>>>
>>>>>1. e4 {0s} e5 {book 0s} 2. Nf3 {9s} Nc6 {book 0s} 3. Bb5
>>>>>{15s} a6 {book 0s} 4. Bxc6 {8s (Ba4)} dxc6 {book 0s} 5. O-O
>>>>>{24s} f6 {book 0s} 6. d4 {12s} exd4 {book 0s} 7. Nxd4 {9s}
>>>>>c5 {book 0s} 8. Nb3 {13s (Ne2)} Qxd1 {book 0s} 9. Rxd1
>>>>>{10s} Be6 {book 0s} 10. Bf4 {15s (Nc3)} c4 {book 0s}
>>>>>11. Na5 {9s} b6 {-0.49/19 3:00m} 12. Nc6 {12s} Bd7
>>>>>{-0.25/20 3:10m} 13. Nd4 {12s} O-O-O {-0.23/20 2:24m}
>>>>>14. Nd2 {13s} Bg4 {-0.32/20 2:26m} 15. N4f3 {11s (f3)} Bxf3
>>>>>{-0.07/19 3:17m} 16. Nxf3 {2:43m (gxf3)} Rxd1+ {-0.54/20
>>>>>3:10m} 17. Rxd1 {58s} Bc5 {-0.42/20 1:16m} 18. Nd4 {1:13m}
>>>>>Bxd4 {-0.39/22 35s} 19. Rxd4 {14s} b5 {-0.42/23 2:22m}
>>>>>20. f3 {1:13m} Ne7 {-0.54/22 1:25m} 21. Kf2 {1:10m} Rd8
>>>>>{-0.46/22 2:03m} 22. Rxd8+ {2:51m (Ke3)} Kxd8 {-0.44/18 4s}
>>>>>23. Be3 {3:54m (Ke3)} Kd7 {-0.39/21 2:03m} 24. Bc5 {3:13m}
>>>>>Ng6 {-0.37/23 6s} 25. Bb4 {2:37m (g4)} Nf4 {-0.37/23 2:53m}
>>>>>26. a3 {2:59m (Bd2)} Ne6 {-0.15/24 2:14m} 27. Ke3 {21s} c5
>>>>>{-0.15/26 2:20m} 28. Bc3 {21s} Nd8 {-0.22/25 3:22m} 29. b3
>>>>>{9s (g4)} cxb3 {-0.10/20 32s} 30. cxb3 {24s} Ke7 {-0.27/22
>>>>>2:08m} 31. g4 {4:41m (f4)} g5 {+0.05/24 2:11m} 32. b4 {58s}
>>>>>c4 {+0.06/25 1:20m} 33. e5 {1:36m (f4)} fxe5 {0.00/25
>>>>>2:44m} 34. Bxe5 {50s} Ke6 {0.00/25 1:52m} 35. Ke4 {3:56m}
>>>>>Nf7 {0.00/26 14s} 36. Bg7 {2:51m (Bg3)} Nd6+ {+0.02/26
>>>>>3:08m} 37. Kd4 {9s} Ne8 {+0.01/26 2:36m} 38. Bh6 {3:30m}
>>>>>Kf6 {0.00/28 0s} 39. f4 {3:17m} gxf4 {0.00/27 0s} 40. Bxf4
>>>>>{3:16m} Ke6 {0.00/27 0s} 41. h3 {4:25m} Nf6 {0.00/28 0s}
>>>>>42. Bh6 {3:23m (Bd2)} Nd5 {-0.01/27 4:18m} 43. Bd2 {10s
>>>>>(Bc1)} Ne7 {-0.01/27 4:42m} 44. Bc1 {4:38m (Ke4)} Nd5
>>>>>{0.00/25 2:50m} 45. Bd2 {3:30m} Nf6 {0.00/27 0s} 46. Bf4
>>>>>{4:13m (Bc1)} Nd7 {-0.01/26 1:32m} 47. Bg5 {3:49m (Be3)}
>>>>>Ne5 {0.00/25 30s} 48. Be3 {2:45m} Ng6 {0.00/24 10s} 49. Ke4
>>>>>{2:01m (Kc5)} Kd6 {0.00/26 3:06m} 50. Bd4 {2:05m (Kd4)} Ke6
>>>>>{0.00/26 2:44m} 51. Ba1 {22s (Be3)} Kf7 {0.00/27 2:54m}
>>>>>52. Bb2 {4:04m (Bc3)} Ke6 {0.00/27 3:06m} 53. Bc3 {1:58m}
>>>>>Ne7 {-0.01/27 1:19m} 54. Bg7 {2:24m (Be1)} Nd5 {+0.01/25
>>>>>2:17m} 55. Be5 {9s (Bb2)} Nf6+ {+0.03/25 3:10m} 56. Kd4
>>>>>{3:49m} h5 {+0.02/26 0s} 57. Bxf6 {2:16m (gxh5)} Kxf6
>>>>>{+0.02/28 2:54m} 58. gxh5 {8:13m (Ke4)} Kg5 {+2.78/28
>>>>>3:21m} 59. h6 {23s (Ke3)} Kxh6 {+3.77/27 2:15m} 60. Kc3
>>>>>{10s} Kh5 {+11.15/30 2:52m} 61. Kd4 {1:08m (Kd2)} Kh4
>>>>>{+12.15/28 1:38m} 62. Ke4 {4:11m} Kxh3 {+M150/28 0s}
>>>>>63. Kf3 {1:11m} Kh4 {+M150/29 0s} 64. Kf4 {5:03m} Kh5
>>>>>{+M150/28 0s} 65. Kf3 {26s (Ke3)} Kg5 {+M150/27 7:16m}
>>>>>66. Ke4 {12s (Ke3)} 0-1
>>>>>
>>>>>Bye Ingo
>>>>>
>>>>>PS: ...and NO #150 is NOT a bug! :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>This was a bug that was fixed prior to the WCCC.  Here is quick output from the
>>>>machine used there:
>>>>
>>>>               11     0.10  -0.04   1. Ke4 Kg5 2. Kf3 Kg6 3. Ke3 hxg4 4.
>>>>                                    hxg4 Kg5 5. Kf3 Kf6 6. Ke4 <HT>
>>>>               11->   0.11  -0.04   1. Ke4 Kg5 2. Kf3 Kg6 3. Ke3 hxg4 4.
>>>>                                    hxg4 Kg5 5. Kf3 Kf6 6. Ke4 <HT>
>>>>               12     0.16  -0.04   1. Ke4 Kg5 2. Kf3 Kg6 3. Ke3 hxg4 4.
>>>>                                    hxg4 Kg5 5. Kf3 Kf6 6. Ke4 <HT>
>>>>               12->   0.18  -0.04   1. Ke4 Kg5 2. Kf3 Kg6 3. Ke3 hxg4 4.
>>>>                                    hxg4 Kg5 5. Kf3 Kf6 6. Ke4 <HT>
>>>>               13     0.25  -0.04   1. Ke4 Kg5 2. Kf3 Kg6 3. Ke3 hxg4 4.
>>>>                                    hxg4 Kg5 5. Kf3 Kf6 6. Ke4 Kf7 7. a4
>>>>                                    Ke6
>>>>               13->   0.29  -0.04   1. Ke4 Kg5 2. Kf3 Kg6 3. Ke3 hxg4 4.
>>>>                                    hxg4 Kg5 5. Kf3 Kf6 6. Ke4 Kf7 7. a4
>>>>                                    Ke6
>>>>               14     0.40  -0.04   1. Ke4 Kg5 2. Kf3 Kg6 3. Ke3 hxg4 4.
>>>>                                    hxg4 Kg7 5. Kf3 Kf7 6. Ke3 Kf6 7. Ke4
>>>>                                    Kf7 <HT>
>>>>               14->   0.48  -0.04   1. Ke4 Kg5 2. Kf3 Kg6 3. Ke3 hxg4 4.
>>>>                                    hxg4 Kg7 5. Kf3 Kf7 6. Ke3 Kf6 7. Ke4
>>>>                                    Kf7 <HT> (s=2)
>>>>               15     0.63  -0.05   1. Ke4 Kg5 2. Kf3 Kg6 3. Ke3 hxg4 4.
>>>>                                    hxg4 Kg7 5. Kd4 Kf6 6. Ke4 Kf7 <HT>
>>>>
>>>>Plays the correct move now instantly and beyond...
>>>
>>>
>>>Thx, Peter allready told me. I hope it is ok to publish the game AFTER the WCCC!
>>
>>Certainly...
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Right now I am playing a game against Crafty at ICC (and it seems that YACE is
>>>loosing :-( ). It is a pity that your Crafty do not send evals to computer
>>>opponents.
>>
>>It does if I know which account is playing. IE against "yace" it should kibitz.
>>Also against others that have asked, like "postmodernist".  Tell me what account
>>and I'll add you to the ak list...
>
>The account name is "Sukkubus" and I allways state the engine I am using in the
>first line + some technical notes later on. 99% of all cases I use YACE.
>
>Thx
>Ingo


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