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Subject: Re: I still have no idea why movei's hardware crashed in bar-ilan univer

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 03:24:55 07/19/04

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On July 19, 2004 at 03:25:18, Tony Werten wrote:

>On July 18, 2004 at 19:15:23, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On July 18, 2004 at 18:49:07, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>
>>>On July 18, 2004 at 18:26:51, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 18, 2004 at 18:14:11, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 18, 2004 at 18:06:31, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 18, 2004 at 17:16:49, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here it continues to works without problems so I did not fix it.
>>>>>>>Here it works without problems as long as there are no power failures.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There was only a single case when it crashed because of a power failure in the
>>>>>>>last week and there are no crashes except that obvious crash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A Person told me after the game against shredder that it crashed when there was
>>>>>>>a network failure but as far as I know it was not connected to the internet in
>>>>>>>bar-ilan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I guess that I will never know the reason that it crashed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Whenever PCs get moved around, the components and their connections get jostled
>>>>>>a bit causing the machine to sometimes exhibit unstable behavior. This is quite
>>>>>>typical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Another variable you should be controlling is whether you are getting a steady
>>>>>>source of power. You should be using a UPS. Were you using one at the
>>>>>>tournament?
>>>>>
>>>>>I know nothing about hardware and
>>>>>I have no idea if I used UPS at the tournament.
>>>>>
>>>>>I only brought the computer without connections and maybe it was a mistake and
>>>>>it was better to bring all the components that connect it because maybe the
>>>>>problem was in some connection in the tournament that simply does not work with
>>>>>the AMD and works correctly with the PIV.
>>>>>
>>>>>I suspected it may be the problem but the person who helped me told me that it
>>>>>cannot be the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>To make clear I did not bring screen or mouse or keyboard and the conections
>>>>that I have between my AMD and these things.
>>>>
>>>>Is it possible that something was wrong in the connection between one of them
>>>>and the AMD when it was not wrong in the connection between one of them and the
>>>>PIV?
>>>>
>>>>All the people that I talked with them about it said that it is not possible but
>>>>I simply cannot find another explanation why the hardware crashed again and
>>>>again when it was not a problem with the PIV at the same place.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>If I remember well, a simple keyboard can causes random blue screen ...
>>
>>The screen showed the words "no signal" for a part of second when movei crashed.
>
>That's a monitor problem.
>
>So basicly, you had a monitor, a network and a computer failure at the same
>time.
>
>Seems like an unsteady power supply to me (ie the current from the university).
>Your AMD seems to be more sensitive for that than the P4. Problably the P4 has a
>better power supply. Or the power supply of the AMD is "on the edge" ie barely
>enough for your sustem, so it can't handle anything extraordinary.
>
>Tony
>

Yes, since too many computer equipments were hooked at the same time, it could
have caused a brownout.  This common occurence is attributed to an under-voltage
of power, or Brownout. A Brownout can deprive a computer of the power needed to
function, causing frozen keyboards and hard-drive crashes.

http://www.netshop.co.uk/f6c525.htm

Jorge



>
>>It is important to note that the keyboard did not cause problems with the PIV
>>and it caused problems with the AMD number of times and it was not a single
>>crash.
>>
>>It crashed twice against shredder and more than twice against Sjeng and
>>WoodPusher.
>>
>>I finished the game against woodpusher inspite of the crashes but I did not
>>finish the game against Sjeng (I replaced the hardware in the middle of them)
>>
>>I brought the computer again against shredder after I saw that it does not crash
>>at home but after it again crashed in the tournament I gave up.
>>
>>Uri



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