Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 10:01:46 07/20/04
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On July 20, 2004 at 12:43:42, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>On July 20, 2004 at 07:56:02, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On July 20, 2004 at 06:57:33, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On July 20, 2004 at 06:42:50, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>
>>>>At moment a played a Game against Crafty 19.15 "ChessBase Native-Engine". In the
>>>>Engine Options I found no an Trojan or Anti-Human code. Also I played normally a
>>>>fast Ches game 30 minutes. Ok. Its was played only on my slow P3 600, but you
>>>>can see that Crafty 19.15 have never his anti-human code (in older versions I
>>>>have seen this code).
>>>>
>>>>Why this?
>>>
>>>Computers usually don´t play "Hara-kiri" chess.
>>
>>THE Variations what a have played is a normal variations in many opening books,
>>from qeens gambit. What I can do when Engine played wrong after last book move
>>6..h6? (6...h6 is a naturally last book move by himan games, or not?)?
>
>h4 is a weak move and Nh3 is a losing move. If the engine doesn`t take the
>bishop you can resign immediately.
>Therefore the expression "Hara-kiri" chess.
Youe are right Micheal, but I have seen by Kramnik h4 in Queens gambit too, and
in the Fide Wcc I see that too (in the Tie Breaks or in the Blitz games! ;)
Also played super GM aslo Harakiri Chess too?
German: sie mussten gewinnen und normale Varianten ergaben dafür keine Chance.
Bei der WCC habe ich eine solche Partie gesehen (mit einem Angriff mit h2-h4).
Und das was danach garnicht so leicht zu verteidigen!
Warum also kann ich das nicht spielen.
Ich kann beweisen dass ich so, wenn ich ein Progamm mit einem solchen Zug aus
dem Buch und Konzept gebracht habe, und danach mit g3 gefolgt von Bg2
weiterspiele ich gute Chancen habe nicht zu verlieren. Irgendwann werde ich das
beweisen!
Ja ich glaube dass solch paradox aussehende Züge sogar gegen Programme ganz gut
sind (gegen Menschen weniger, obwohl sie auch da gespielt werden. Der
weissspieler hat verloren damit, glaube ich, aber immerhin war es schon
achtelfinal oder so).
Best,
Eduard
>
>>
>>>Therefore it is not necessary for a WCCC version to have such code.
>>
>>That is not my problem. I have download the Chessbase native Engine, not more.
>>
>>Is this wrong with the CB Native 19.15 to play?
>
>Not at all.
>You asked "why this?" and I gave a seemingly logical explanation (which turned
>out to be wrong).
>
>Michael
>
>
>>
>>Regards,
>>Eduard
>>
>>>
>>>Michael
>>>
>>>>
>>>>GUI = ChessProgram8
>>>>Crafty = Native Engine CB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>[Event "Blitz:30'"]
>>>>[Site "Privat"]
>>>>[Date "2004.07.20"]
>>>>[Round "?"]
>>>>[White "Nemeth, Eduard"]
>>>>[Black "Crafty 19.15"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ECO "D54"]
>>>>[Annotator "Nemeth,Eduard"]
>>>>[PlyCount "125"]
>>>>[TimeControl "1800"]
>>>>
>>>>{48MB, Fritz8.ctg, P3 600} 1. d4 {0} Nf6 {0} 2. c4 {3} e6 {0} 3. Nc3 {(Sf3) 2}
>>>>d5 {0} 4. Bg5 {(Sf3) 2} Be7 {0} 5. e3 {(Sf3) 2} O-O {0} 6. Rc1 {(Sf3) 2} h6 {0}
>>>>7. h4 {(Lh4) 4} dxc4 {-0.71/10 53} 8. Nh3 {(Lxf6) 2} hxg5 {-3.27/11 52} 9. hxg5
>>>>{4} Nfd7 {-2.85/10 122} 10. Qh5 {(g6) 7} g6 {1.64/10 46} 11. Qh6 {4} Re8 {
>>>>3.12/11 69} 12. Nf4 {29} Bf6 {3.47/10 68} 13. Qh7+ {30} Kf8 {3.66/11 10} 14.
>>>>gxf6 {14} Qxf6 {3.36/11 26} 15. Qh8+ {6} Qxh8 {3.38/14 33} 16. Rxh8+ {4} Ke7 {
>>>>2.98/13 34} 17. Nfd5+ {16} exd5 {1.70/15 25} 18. Nxd5+ {4} Kd8 {1.90/16 32} 19.
>>>>Rxe8+ {3} Kxe8 {1.80/17 32} 20. Nxc7+ {1} Kd8 {1.80/16 35} 21. Nxa8 {4} b5 {
>>>>1.89/15 29} 22. a4 {35} Bb7 {1.81/14 0} 23. axb5 {11} Bxa8 {1.84/14 22} 24.
>>>>Bxc4 {5} f6 {1.89/13 27} 25. f3 {16} Nb6 {1.92/13 15} 26. Bd3 {6} g5 {
>>>>1.74/13 25} 27. Ra1 {21} Nc8 {1.63/12 9} 28. b6 {(Lf5) 118} a6 {1.38/13 30} 29.
>>>>Bxa6 {13} Nxa6 {1.40/13 19} 30. Rxa6 {2} Bb7 {1.45/14 26} 31. Ra5 {2} Nxb6 {
>>>>1.53/13 26} 32. e4 {17} Bc8 {1.50/12 10} 33. Rc5 {(b3) 46} Nd7 {1.68/13 53} 34.
>>>>Rc6 {4} Bb7 {1.90/14 22} 35. Re6 {32} Kc7 {2.02/14 0} 36. d5 {9} Kb8 {
>>>>2.05/13 16} 37. b4 {4} Kc7 {2.11/13 21} 38. Kd2 {22} Ba8 {2.20/13 1} 39. Ke3 {
>>>>(Kd3) 25} Bb7 {2.41/13 23} 40. g3 {(f4) 9} Kc8 {2.73/12 31} 41. f4 {7} Kd8 {
>>>>3.22/12 23} 42. Kd4 {14} gxf4 {3.58/13 8} 43. gxf4 {3} Bc8 {3.89/14 18} 44. b5
>>>>{6} Bb7 {4.56/13 15} 45. e5 {5} fxe5+ {5.33/13 16} 46. fxe5 {3} Nf8 {5.46/12 24
>>>>} 47. Rh6 {78} Ke7 {14.86/14 34} 48. e6 {57} Kd6 {18.80/13 31} 49. Rf6 {34} Ke7
>>>>{24.95/13 24} 50. Rf7+ {76} Ke8 {24.95/13 21} 51. Rxb7 {5} Ng6 {#7/11 31} 52.
>>>>Rf7 {(d6) 18} Kd8 {#11/11 16} 53. d6 {4} Kc8 {#6/10 11} 54. Rf6 {(d7+) 14} Kb7
>>>>{#9/9 14} 55. Rxg6 {(d7) 3} Kb6 {#5/10 14} 56. Kd5 {(Kc4) 5} Kxb5 {#5/10 14}
>>>>57. Rg4 {(d7) 4} Kb6 {#4/9 13} 58. Rb4+ {(e7) 3} Ka5 {#4/10 13} 59. Kc5 {6} Ka6
>>>>{#3/8 3} 60. Rb1 {(e7) 2} Ka7 {#3/9 12} 61. Kc6 {(e7) 1} Ka8 {#2/9 12} 62. Kc7
>>>>{1} Ka7 {#1/8 8} 63. Ra1# {2} 1-0
>>>>
>>>>Eduard
>>>>
>>>>http://www.beepworld.de/members37/computerschach/
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